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randymo9 · 12-18-2016, 04:33 PM

my 52 f1 needs a steering box. a friend has a good 53 to 56 pickup box. can I use this 56 box in my 52 pickup. what changes would I have to make thanks randy

rotorwrench · 12-18-2016, 06:02 PM

You can use any thing you want but it's not a direct bolt in. The 48 thru 52 steering gears are decent enough and available enough that I don't think I would modify it for the F100 box. The F1 box may just need a new worm gear, sector roller, or bearings. The mod can be done though if you want to go through the extra work. Parts for the Gemmer II box are readily available since they were used clear back to 1937.

JSeery · 12-18-2016, 09:33 PM

What rotorwrench said, the later boxes are larger and change the position of the column.

skidmarks · 12-18-2016, 09:55 PM

Pitman arm is different. Length is different. Angle of the mounting flange is different. Bolt pattern is different. New parts for your stock box is easier to replace then the work to make the F100 work. Plus the postion of the worm means cutting the floor board cover

randymo9 · 12-19-2016, 06:38 AM

I don't have a original box. I was told that using a later box would make the driveability better. not sure if this is true or worth doing modifications randy

Dick · 12-19-2016, 09:11 AM

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These pictures might help. Smaller box is '49 F-1 - larger a '55 box.
'49 used splines for pitman arm - '53-'55 uses pinch bolt.
You can see the different mounting patterns.

skidmarks · 12-19-2016, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randymo9

I don't have a original box. I was told that using a later box would make the driveability better. not sure if this is true or worth doing modifications randy

48 to 52 are the same. Just locate the right one . Might even find one good enough to just install

Ol' Ron · 12-19-2016, 03:35 PM

There seems to be allot of steering box upgrades lateyl here on the barn. Most of them to older ford car/pickups. I was wondering if any of you ever considered the Saginaw 525. I think you can buy an adapter plate for it. I also use the 70/80's GM column, makes for easy brake and direction lights.. I do think the results are better steering. I also think theElectric PS is the cheapest and easiest way to go. Not for the purest tho.

12-18-2016, 04:33 PM	#1
randymo9 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: hainesport nj Posts: 49	53-56 steering box into f1 pickup my 52 f1 needs a steering box. a friend has a good 53 to 56 pickup box. can I use this 56 box in my 52 pickup. what changes would I have to make thanks randy

12-18-2016, 06:02 PM	#2
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,427	Re: 53-56 steering box into f1 pickup You can use any thing you want but it's not a direct bolt in. The 48 thru 52 steering gears are decent enough and available enough that I don't think I would modify it for the F100 box. The F1 box may just need a new worm gear, sector roller, or bearings. The mod can be done though if you want to go through the extra work. Parts for the Gemmer II box are readily available since they were used clear back to 1937.

12-18-2016, 09:33 PM	#3
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 53-56 steering box into f1 pickup What rotorwrench said, the later boxes are larger and change the position of the column.

12-18-2016, 09:55 PM	#4
skidmarks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: newark, delaware Posts: 3,735	Re: 53-56 steering box into f1 pickup Pitman arm is different. Length is different. Angle of the mounting flange is different. Bolt pattern is different. New parts for your stock box is easier to replace then the work to make the F100 work. Plus the postion of the worm means cutting the floor board cover

12-19-2016, 06:38 AM	#5
randymo9 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: hainesport nj Posts: 49	Re: 53-56 steering box into f1 pickup I don't have a original box. I was told that using a later box would make the driveability better. not sure if this is true or worth doing modifications randy

12-19-2016, 03:35 PM	#8
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: 53-56 steering box into f1 pickup There seems to be allot of steering box upgrades lateyl here on the barn. Most of them to older ford car/pickups. I was wondering if any of you ever considered the Saginaw 525. I think you can buy an adapter plate for it. I also use the 70/80's GM column, makes for easy brake and direction lights.. I do think the results are better steering. I also think theElectric PS is the cheapest and easiest way to go. Not for the purest tho.