05-07-2016, 11:26 AM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pemberville, Ohio
Posts: 456
|
hub cap rattle
Any ideas on how to stop hubcaps from rattling? At least one of mine rattles and it is annoying. It's secure and not going to fall off but still rattles in the wheel.
|
05-07-2016, 11:34 AM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 137
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Silicone.
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
05-07-2016, 11:39 AM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pemberville, Ohio
Posts: 456
|
Re: hub cap rattle
How are the hub caps held on? I've never had a wheel off.
|
05-07-2016, 11:50 AM | #4 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 11,454
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Tabs are bent over inside the rim.. If you tighten up the tabs better you should be ok..not all of them need to be bent... My experience has been is they won't rattle after securing them on good
|
05-07-2016, 12:04 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Santee Calif.
Posts: 509
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Two or three small spots of silicone from the back side will fix the rattles and still let you remove them later on if you need to. But if the tabs are bent over tight they should not rattle
|
05-07-2016, 12:16 PM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 141
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Brian |
05-07-2016, 12:22 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Lynden, WA
Posts: 1,564
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Are your hubcap gaskets in good shape?
As temporary fix I put a few rubberbands around the caps. 8^) http://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/A1130GS.html |
05-07-2016, 01:00 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 5,849
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Hub Cap gaskets??
If you have a '30-31, Mike's sells a "Hub Cap Tool" http://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/T1130.html It reforms the tabs so the hub cab snaps on. No rubber bands needed. A little expensive but I have repaired enough hub caps (@ $10-$31 per) to pay for it. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 05-07-2016 at 02:32 PM. |
05-07-2016, 02:29 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Milpitas, CA
Posts: 398
|
Re: hub cap rattle
For my 30-31 hubcaps I use a 3" or so thin O ring between the tabs and the inside of the wheel. The round hair thing that girls use on their hair to hold it also works well and you can get them easily.
__________________
Bill Cilker, Jr Unrestored 190A Victoria 45B, 160B & 189A Victoria Association President |
05-07-2016, 02:57 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Upstate in NY's beautifull hills
Posts: 173
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Yes, the hubcap rattle from the mangled tabs (former owner) required some kind of patience & skill I couldn't seem to muster so I clinched them the best I could & used the rubber o'rings from our 013 Camry used oil filters to act as seals/spacers ---they look & work great & I think are similar to what Mike's sells for cheap. I was going to order a set but found w/ my scrounge technology the Toyo filter ones did the trick. (I always save O rings)
BTW , stretching & popping in O rings seal the gap keeping out moisture & center the cap . Last edited by 1Tudoor; 05-08-2016 at 10:10 AM. |
05-07-2016, 07:11 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Lynden, WA
Posts: 1,564
|
Re: hub cap rattle
So are the gaskets some aftermarket thing?
|
05-07-2016, 10:02 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Northport, NY
Posts: 1,597
|
Re: hub cap rattle
O-Rings ? Gaskets ?
WHAT could be better than a couple of dabs of Silicone ? Simple, cheap, non-Invasive, Removable. |
05-07-2016, 10:18 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hingham, MA
Posts: 135
|
Re: hub cap rattle
The tab forming tool is great. I bend all ten tabs, feels tighter. It takes a little time to form them correctly. If you use O-rings you will have space the tool the thickness of the O-ring. They look like an electrical box knock-out plug when you get done. Haven't had a rattler or lost one in 8 years.
|
05-07-2016, 11:00 PM | #14 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto.
Posts: 5,800
|
Re: hub cap rattle
First of all I have never heard of hubcap gaskets. I bend over half the tabs and place a gob of clear silicone on each one. No more rattles! Wayne
|
05-08-2016, 06:34 AM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Barren windswept mountain somewhere in bleak Northeastern Pennsylvania
Posts: 294
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Interesting to find this topic at this time . . .
Yesterday afternoon, I pulled off the "symbolic" spare wheel from the back of the 31' Tudor so as to repaint the thing. Dislike color wheels on bread n' butter Model A Ford cars and this one came with RED. What sort of nut job paints the wheels on a Model A ford the color "RED"? Anyway, the spare wheel was removed and hub cap then taken off. After pressure washing, the wheel was blast painted a pleasing gloss BLACK. Later on when dried, the well polished hub cab was re-installed and numerous tabs carefully bent back into place nice n' snug. Mounted the wheel onto the spare holder and tightened the bolts as not to scratch up the new paint job. When done it was however noticed that the stupid hub cap was slightly loose so as to rattle. No way am I taking off that dumb wheel again any time soon. Forget about it! So . . . the remedy was . . . . (Mister Bert Parks . . . the envelope please!) The winner is . . . . "LIQUID SUPER GLUE". And all the kiddies in the Peanut Gallery start screaming with delight. That's right River Rouge fans . . . . this incredibly clever home fix-it person used LIQUID SUPER GLUE" on a Model A Ford. Hell . . . it works like gangbusters on my 32-year old Mercedes Benz diesel sedan which is 67% plastic. It just took two (2) itsy bitsy teeny tiny drops of "LIQUID SUPER GLUE" to kibosh the hub cap rattle. The next idiot who has to remove that hub cap will likely need to use dynamite but I don't care. Last edited by Capt Quahog; 05-08-2016 at 06:47 AM. |
05-08-2016, 09:06 AM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 5,849
|
Re: hub cap rattle
I like this guys way way better... Custom Hub Caps
Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 05-08-2016 at 09:47 AM. |
05-08-2016, 09:10 AM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 2,763
|
Re: hub cap rattle
__________________
-Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio |
05-08-2016, 09:31 AM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Eagle Bend, MN
Posts: 2,025
|
Re: hub cap rattle
I have original caps in quite nice shape. When I had the wheels off I took a 1/2 inch by 8-10 inch wooden dowel and holding the cap against my leg, put the dowel on each tab, through the rim center and gave it a tap. No rattle, the tabs are bent out quite a bit so I suppose it will be a bit difficult to get them off but they are nice and tight anyway.
__________________
"There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool." |
05-08-2016, 10:02 AM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: In my garage
Posts: 465
|
Re: hub cap rattle
I guess my A is not running like all of your A's I don't think I can hear a hub cap rattling around when I drive around! With all of the other rattles
|
05-08-2016, 10:14 AM | #20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Santee, California
Posts: 3,505
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Here is a fix. Take string, and from the inner center of the cap run the string out between two of the tabs. Run the string around the outside of the tabs and back into the center of the same gap you started from, and cut. Now you have just enough of a ring of string to serve as a gasket. It tightens and silences the cap.
|
05-08-2016, 12:08 PM | #21 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 5,849
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Why not just bend the tabs correctly? I don't believe Model A's came from the factory with rubber bands, o rings, string, glue and/or silicone...
|
05-08-2016, 12:44 PM | #22 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,486
|
Re: hub cap rattle
For the original 28/29 hubcaps, the tabs were not bent over. The caps were designed to simply pop into place and the tabs would hold the caps tight. If you look at pictures of the assembly lines of the 28/29's you will see some shots with the wheels installed without the caps. They were put on after the wheels were installed on the drums. I installed a NOS set of E-28 caps on my wheels and they did indeed pop into place and are super snug and will in no way rattle.
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
05-08-2016, 12:50 PM | #23 |
BANNED
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 11,454
|
Re: hub cap rattle
|
05-09-2016, 10:39 AM | #24 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Santee, California
Posts: 3,505
|
Re: hub cap rattle
|
05-09-2016, 01:09 PM | #25 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Stayton, Oregon
Posts: 3,806
|
Re: hub cap rattle
I have found that the caps I have on my coupe, which are aftermarket, are impossible to bend the tabs to get them to not rattle. So I used the vendors rubber O rings and they work fine. On my huckster which has better caps, I can bend the caps to get them to not rattle. The huckster caps I think are after market also but are a better quality than the coupe's. So this is my experience for it is worth.
__________________
Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster |
05-09-2016, 01:19 PM | #26 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,115
|
Re: hub cap rattle
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
__________________
Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club |
05-09-2016, 01:24 PM | #27 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: In my garage
Posts: 465
|
Re: hub cap rattle
|
05-09-2016, 05:22 PM | #28 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Duluth, MN
Posts: 196
|
Re: hub cap rattle
|
05-09-2016, 07:37 PM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Kennesaw, Ga
Posts: 511
|
Re: hub cap rattle
If you can hear the hub cap rattle, you have a very quiet car. ENJOY.
|
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|