Lock washers on the rear transmission bearing retainer

[wrndln]

When I dismantled the transmission I am now rebuilding, there were lock washers used on the four bolts that fasten the rear bearing retainer to the transmission. The washers were Ford lock washers that have the serrations on them, not modern lock washers someone decided to install. The bolts have safety wire to keep them from coming loose. There is a slight concern that if the bolts go in too far they could possibly interfere with the cluster gear, thus the lock washers. In Les Andrews volume 1 (picture below), it says nothing about lock washers. I have heard there are errors in Les' book, so I thought I would check here to see what Fordbarn people think. It may not make any difference either way, I just want to do it the way Ford did it.

Added note: All the bolts used on the transmission had lock washers on them.
Rusty Nelson

[wrndln]

Vince,
You are probably right. In Mike Isbell's Standard Hardware booklet is shows 7/16" lock washers along with the 7/16-20 bolts under the transmission section. The lock washers might be used to insure the bolts don't go into the case too far. I can't find my PPL.
Rusty Nelson

[Mitch//pa]

If it's just to take up the length of the bolt why not use shorter bolts or just flat washers... I think it's to lock in the bolt

[Tom Wesenberg]

Yes, use lock washers, A-22300, four of them.

[J Franklin]

I have dismantled over 7 A transmissions and all had lockwashers installed

[wrndln]

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Thanks to all that responded. Lock washers it is.
Rusty Nelson

[katy]

What are: "The washers were Ford lock washers that have the serrations on them"? (A-22300 ?)
Are they internal or external star washers? Or? I looked on Bratton's site and all I saw was split lockwashers.

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by katy

What are: "The washers were Ford lock washers that have the serrations on them"? (A-22300 ?)
Are they internal or external star washers? Or? I looked on Bratton's site and all I saw was split lockwashers.

They are regular split lock washers, but most of the ones from those days have the split at an angle \ and have the outside edge with a design of vertical lines llllllllllll, or xxxxxxxx pattern.

[katy]

Thanks Tom, this older fellow learned something new today. Methinks I'll go check my stock of old non-plated lock washers to see ifn there's any of that type in there.

[Indiana A. Lover]

For ever 4 Are you mad at Les rag i like it