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darrell · 10-08-2018, 05:47 PM

sal you said you seldom see 56 heads with core plugs.ive never seen a set without them.anyone know the month the change took place.have wondered about this for some time.like to know these things.

scicala · 10-08-2018, 06:47 PM

If you look at this video of a '56 Ford commercial, the part when the hood is up, you can see the air cleaner has a vertical bar on the inlet.

Sal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3pECsn8WeQ

scicala · 10-08-2018, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by darrell

sal you said you seldom see 56 heads with core plugs.ive never seen a set without them.anyone know the month the change took place.have wondered about this for some time.like to know these things.

Darrell, that's odd, because most '56 Y-Blocks I've seen, don't have the core plugs. I don't know if there was a date when there was a switchover, or if they just mixed it up. I know they had '56 type casting numbers (ECZ-A,B,C). The man to ask would be John Mummert at:
ford-y-block.com

Sal

paul2748 · 10-08-2018, 08:44 PM

I have the 56 "C" heads on my 56 Tbird. No core plugs. Friend on mine has a spare set of 56 "C" heads with the core plugs. My car was built late in the year. Don't know what month in 56 that the change was made

KULTULZ · 10-08-2018, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteek29

From my research the air cleaner bars were horizontal for '55, vertical for '56.

You are correct. Also, the 55 and 56 ACL housing was different.

Herman Munster · 10-10-2018, 02:28 PM

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My original 56 ACL has no bar at all. It doesn't look as if it was altered. I may have to look at it again when I have a chance.

scicala · 10-10-2018, 02:47 PM

I've seen the '56 Ford with a vertical bar and no bar. I'm thinking the air cleaners without the bar (insert) was late in the model year.

Sal

Herman Munster · 10-10-2018, 07:51 PM

Mine is an early model, built 10/21/55. Who's to say someone didn't replace it or it got switched while being serviced many years ago?

Herman Munster · 10-12-2018, 01:53 PM

I gave a good look over my old ACL and there's no sign of any bar if there was one.
It does have some dents, one area looks like someone tried to fix one of them and then repainted it. It's definitely not show quality.

Here's an old photo taken by the PO before I bought the car.

KULTULZ · 10-12-2018, 05:05 PM

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KULTULZ · 10-12-2018, 05:17 PM

Here is what I found guys and failed to share-

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Ford-M...-/113069313297

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1955 Ford & 1955 Mercury ORIGINAL FACTORY OIL BATH AIR CLEANER FOR 4bbl. CARBURETOR

This air cleaner is specific to '55, the '56 base has no clearance indent on the lower front which is present on this one. Note the horizontal cross brace in the round intake port- these are often missing on these. On the '56 this brace is mounted vertically. The '55 Ford air cleaner is painted silver, the '55 Mercury uses the identical air cleaner, painted yellow.

E-BAY SELLER DESC - mp44sturmgewehr @

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Ford-M...Uns:rk:45:pf:0

He also has a '56 listed and you will see the difference(s).

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1956-Ford-Me...lY8V:rk:8:pf:0

1955 4V SHOWN - VANE MISSING

3RD EDIT - Let's See If I can Do This Without Screwing Up ...

3rd photo shows the '56 vane (I guess it would be called) seemingly attached to the housing snorkel -

scicala · 10-12-2018, 07:52 PM

My '55 Mercury had the horizontal bar like the 2nd picture.

Sal

KULTULZ · 10-15-2018, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteek29

Have a '55 Vic (3 speed OD 272 dual exhaust) coming in. Judging from the round inlet with horizontal crossbar air cleaner, it must have a 4 bbl carb?

Not sure if this question was answered, but yes, the ACL inlet bar indicates a 4V. The 2V ACL was shaped differently.

Anteek29 · 10-15-2018, 10:18 AM

Yes, question answered with all the informative inputs

tjaybo · 10-15-2018, 11:11 AM

Alan, great looking car. I am in the middle of restoring a 55 fairlane 2 door club sedan. I would love to see your car and talk in person as I have some questions about some details. Do you think we could make a time when I could come down [i'm in Templeton] and meet? If nothing else maybe at a cars and coffee or something. Thanks Jim 805-459-5354

Anteek29 · 10-15-2018, 06:37 PM

The '55 Vicky arrived today and I have alot to learn. I did pull the ACL, expecting to see a factory teapot carb - nope! It is a newer Holley of some kind, so here are 2 pics for your evaluation. What is it?
2 or 4 bbl?

Herman Munster · 10-15-2018, 07:32 PM

It a "newer" 2 bbl Holley.

Anteek29 · 10-15-2018, 08:04 PM

Thanks, Herm!

40cpe · 10-15-2018, 08:07 PM

Hopefully the distributor has been changed to a '57 up with centrifugal and vacuum advance. If you pull the distributor cap and see two springs on the advance plate, you would be much better served to find the later distributor. The '55 or '56 distributor will not work correctly with a later carburetor.

dmsfrr · 10-15-2018, 08:51 PM

A quick way to confirm if you have a '55/'56 style distributor or a '57+ is to look at how the rotor is indexed on the shaft.
The '55/'56 has a 'flat' side (and the two springs 40cpe mentioned) '57+ versions have a notch.
The vacuum advance canister on the distributor in your photos looks like a '57+

If it's an aftermarket distributor, I can't say for sure...

10-08-2018, 05:47 PM	#21
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? sal you said you seldom see 56 heads with core plugs.ive never seen a set without them.anyone know the month the change took place.have wondered about this for some time.like to know these things.

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scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? If you look at this video of a '56 Ford commercial, the part when the hood is up, you can see the air cleaner has a vertical bar on the inlet. Sal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3pECsn8WeQ

10-08-2018, 08:44 PM	#24
paul2748 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midland Park, NJ Posts: 3,982	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? I have the 56 "C" heads on my 56 Tbird. No core plugs. Friend on mine has a spare set of 56 "C" heads with the core plugs. My car was built late in the year. Don't know what month in 56 that the change was made __________________ 48 Ford Conv 56 Tbird 54 Ford Victoria

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Herman Munster Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SW WA state. Posts: 564	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My original 56 ACL has no bar at all. It doesn't look as if it was altered. I may have to look at it again when I have a chance. __________________ 1956 Ford Fairlane Town Sedan 292 V8 with Ford-o-Matic

10-10-2018, 02:47 PM	#27
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? I've seen the '56 Ford with a vertical bar and no bar. I'm thinking the air cleaners without the bar (insert) was late in the model year. Sal

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Herman Munster Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SW WA state. Posts: 564	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? Mine is an early model, built 10/21/55. Who's to say someone didn't replace it or it got switched while being serviced many years ago? __________________ 1956 Ford Fairlane Town Sedan 292 V8 with Ford-o-Matic

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10-12-2018, 07:52 PM	#32
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? My '55 Mercury had the horizontal bar like the 2nd picture. Sal

10-15-2018, 10:18 AM	#34
Anteek29 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Santa Maria, CA Posts: 985	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? Yes, question answered with all the informative inputs __________________ Alan 1929 Special Coupe 1941 Pick-Up 1955 Victoria

10-15-2018, 11:11 AM	#35
tjaybo Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 55	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? Alan, great looking car. I am in the middle of restoring a 55 fairlane 2 door club sedan. I would love to see your car and talk in person as I have some questions about some details. Do you think we could make a time when I could come down [i'm in Templeton] and meet? If nothing else maybe at a cars and coffee or something. Thanks Jim 805-459-5354

10-15-2018, 07:32 PM	#37
Herman Munster Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SW WA state. Posts: 564	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? It a "newer" 2 bbl Holley. __________________ 1956 Ford Fairlane Town Sedan 292 V8 with Ford-o-Matic

10-15-2018, 08:04 PM	#38
Anteek29 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Santa Maria, CA Posts: 985	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? Thanks, Herm! __________________ Alan 1929 Special Coupe 1941 Pick-Up 1955 Victoria

10-15-2018, 08:07 PM	#39
40cpe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Star, MS Posts: 4,024	Re: Carb on Stock '55 Vic? Hopefully the distributor has been changed to a '57 up with centrifugal and vacuum advance. If you pull the distributor cap and see two springs on the advance plate, you would be much better served to find the later distributor. The '55 or '56 distributor will not work correctly with a later carburetor.