Engine Identification '34 Ford

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Here you go

Yeah, you wouldn't have V8 Hubcaps on a four cylinder car.....

[DavidG]

Today might be your lucky day as I have a spare set of NOS '34-only four-cylinder hub caps as in Robert's photo above (but with the blue paint intact). Please send me a p.m. if you are interested.


Back on Robert's post #10, I could ring the neck of the guy that I sold my four-banger '34 roadster to as while he restored the car, he did so as a V8.


When you get a chance, I very much would like to see your engine compartment; both sides, please.

[rockfla]

AND you must not forget, ONE horn...NOT two, left side, BLACK....ALL black including the "dome" IF authenticity is the desire.

[rockfla]

DavidG


Would the 34 share the same engine tins as the 33 4cyl??

[Terry,OH]

There is no way to determine if the engine in your car is the one it left the factory with. At any previous point in time it could have been replaced by an identical appearing engine. The number on the top of the transmission does not indicate anything about engine replacement, since the engine can be changed without changing the transmission. It will let you know the transmission case was with the car when it left the factory or it has been changed and if changed what model year the case is from.

[rockfla]

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GThorpe


All be it a 1933, It is a "standard" configuration for the horn.

[DavidG]

Terry,

No doubt you had a V8 in mind as there are not engine numbers on '32-'34 four-cylinder transmission cases, only on the separate upper bell housing.


Robert,

Yes, the four-cylinder engine splash pans are the same for both '33 and '34 fours. Do you need them?

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Terry,

No doubt you had a V8 in mind as there are not engine numbers on '32-'34 four-cylinder transmission cases, only on the separate upper bell housing.


Robert,

Yes, the four-cylinder engine splash pans are the same for both '33 and '34 fours. Do you need them?

No Sir, thank you very much for asking.......I have "A" set AND I "might" have a second set original to our 33.....BUT not 100% sure. I got an extra set off of a fellow converting a 33 to a V8.....another one, sadly down!!! Funny thing was when it was over he wished he had not done it!!! JUST my curiosity asking.

[jimTN]

Very nice car. One other item should be changed and thats the bumper guards. You car should have the type shown above on the last posted pic. You might also check the frame vin number, left side in front of the steering gear. If it has the be prefix it is logical that the car was originally a 4 cyl.

[GThorpe]

Originally Posted by jimTN

Very nice car. One other item should be changed and thats the bumper guards. You car should have the type shown above on the last posted pic. You might also check the frame vin number, left side in front of the steering gear. If it has the be prefix it is logical that the car was originally a 4 cyl.

Gotcha! And yes, that is the VIN that I checked when I got the car, and that also matched the VIN that came on the registration for the car. "B526XXXX"

I also found out that this car's VIN decodes to being made in January 1934.

[GThorpe]

Originally Posted by rockfla

GThorpe


All be it a 1933, It is a "standard" configuration for the horn.

Yes, I have that exact horn for the car. There were two of them, one on each side when I got the car.

[DavidG]

Once you ditch the bumper guards on the car in the photos, it's your choice whether to have them or not as they were optional at extra cost originally.

[DavidG]

Robert,

On the subject of bumper guards, while they will fit on a '33 bumper as on that station wagon in your photo in #26 (but not perfectly vertical as intended), they are '34 parts for use with the wider center bolt spacing bumpers and were not released until after the '33 model year had ended in the U.S..

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Robert,

On the subject of bumper guards, while they will fit on a '33 bumper as on that station wagon in your photo in #26 (but not perfectly vertical as intended), they are '34 parts for use with the wider center bolt spacing bumpers and were not released until after the '33 model year had ended in the U.S..

Thank you once again for sharing your impeccable knowledge David. I have never even paid attention to bumper guards on 34’s OR lack there of in 33, another lesson on “pay close attention” to the “details”!! My comment on that post for “standard configuration” was intended to show the single black horn on the left, again never having knowledge you shared on bumper guards!! So I stand corrected. Thanks again for educating me


PS…thanks for the education on 32 shocks AND windshield wiper motors in the other post. Between you and Sheldon my knowledge has expanded greatly!!! Thank you, Thank you!

[DavidG]

Robert,

You're welcome, as always.

[deuce lover]

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[rockfla]

GThorpe
For the Icing on your tasty "cake" here is the proper "locking" spare tire cap.

[DavidG]

Which is easily confused with the '35 locking cap. As shown in Robert's photos, the width of the depressed area of the oval is wider on the ends while on the '35 cap the width of the depressed area is uniform all around the oval.

[rockfla]

An example of what DavidR speaks a la 1935 for comparison. NOTE the uniform width of the oval

[DavidG]

While granted that more '35s were produced than '34s, folks must have really liked the '35 version as their survival rate seems to be extraordinarily high.