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Old 05-24-2012, 12:05 PM   #181
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Hey Vic, Is your nos u-joint one of the Lincoln joints with needle bearings or a Ford joint ? Im considering putting a Ford joint in my Zephyr,every Lincoln joint I have seen is worn out . Seems to me there would have to be some thin grease in there to work its way into one of those Lincoln joints. Anyone else have any thoughts on this ?

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Just to let you know I have a new Zephyr U joint in my 39 Zephyr trans and originally I was going to install a Ford U joint to find out it will not work on the Zephyr splines as it is smaller and doesn't go on. The Zephyr spline comming out of the transmission is different than the Ford I was hoping to change it for the Ford style because there are more of them than the Zephyr and cheaper.

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Old 05-24-2012, 01:50 PM   #182
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Just to let you know I have a new Zephyr U joint in my 39 Zephyr trans and originally I was going to install a Ford U joint to find out it will not work on the Zephyr splines as it is smaller and doesn't go on. The Zephyr spline comming out of the transmission is different than the Ford I was hoping to change it for the Ford style because there are more of them than the Zephyr and cheaper.

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Frenchy & Ken,
The U joint I used was on the back of a '46 Ford transmission that I got several years ago, it fit with no problems. The Ford & Lincoln part #'s are the same, B-7090 for the U Joint Assembly.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:53 PM   #183
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The U joint I used was on the back of a '46 Ford transmission that I got several years ago, it fit with no problems. The Ford & Lincoln part #'s are the same, B-7090 for the U Joint Assembly.

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Thanks I was told they were different spline from the Zephyr and Ford.

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Old 05-24-2012, 03:47 PM   #184
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I was thinking the two transmissions shared the same mainshaft
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:03 PM   #185
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I was thinking the two transmissions shared the same mainshaft


Everything but the case is the same in the '39 Ford & '39 LZ transmission as far as part #'s go. I used all Ford parts; it pays to cross reference part #'s as a lot of Ford & Merc parts are used on the LZ.
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Everything but the case is the same in the '39 Ford & '39 LZ transmission as far as part #'s go. I used all Ford parts; it pays to cross reference part #'s as a lot of Ford & Merc parts are used on the LZ.

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Thanks for the info.

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Old 05-29-2012, 06:41 AM   #187
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I hope everyone enjoyed the long weekend and remembered those that gave their lives to protect our freedom... I got nothing done as far as working on Flatheads goes (still haven't put the plug wire looms in) but I've been enjoying driving the LZ with all the other new parts installed. I’m going to pull the distributor to clean/service it and install the new gasket set. Here’s a question, do any of you know if the terminal plates have corresponding numbers (relating to which plug wire goes where) on them?
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:03 AM   #188
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According to the verbiage in the manual they are marked like the V8 caps. The following was pulled from the section on the V12.

ASSEMBLY.
Note the numbers on the wire ends. Insert the wires

in
their proper positions in the distributor caps and conduit, and connect

the other end of the wires to the corresponding numbers in the
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:53 AM   #189
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Thanks, I thought it would be like the V8's but I wasn't sure, I appreciate the information.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:58 PM   #190
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Today I finally got a chance to mess with the LZ so I installed the plug wire looms, pulled the distributor, cleaned it up, put new gaskets, etc. Later this week I'll try to get the distributor installed and fired up.
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Vic, that really looks nice. The color blend is terrific! Steve
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:38 PM   #192
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Steve, thanks, once everything is cleaned up and painted she should look fine... right now I just want her to run so I can have some fun with her while I wait for the floor pans from Bradley’s... Hoping to play again this Saturday, think you can cruise up? Vic
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I hope everyone enjoyed the long weekend and remembered those that gave their lives to protect our freedom... I got nothing done as far as working on Flatheads goes (still haven't put the plug wire looms in) but I've been enjoying driving the LZ with all the other new parts installed. I’m going to pull the distributor to clean/service it and install the new gasket set. Here’s a question, do any of you know if the terminal plates have corresponding numbers (relating to which plug wire goes where) on them?
They are marked but its easy to get #6 and #9 mixed up so watch out for that.
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:11 AM   #194
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Ken, I experienced my first screw up ever... LOL! I thought that the LZ marked the plugs like the Ford... Wrong... I had to retrace each plug wire as the LZ has odd numbers on left head and even numbers on the right head... Take away… If all else fails, read the instructions…
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:15 AM   #195
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Reading the instructions is NOT in the instructions - or is it? I never read them .... until I'm in deep trouble - LOL!
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:32 AM   #196
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This morning I cleaned up and inspected the distributor & coil, installed new gaskets, etc. Everything was working fine before I took it out of the LZ so I didn't want to disassemble everything to give it a super cleaning.


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Amazing, keep it comin' Vic! So similar and yet so different!

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Amazing, keep it comin' Vic! So similar and yet so different!

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Yup, I put everything back together and fired her up only to find that I must have crossed plug wires (maybe on #6 & #9) like Ken said. Oh well, looks like I'll have to pull everything out and try it again... I'll just keep repeating "I love my flatheads"...
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Well, things are back to normal here at the garage...

Mike, Don, Steve and Cliff came over this morning and we fixed the crossed plug wires in the LZ... Now she's running like she should... Steve and I changed the oil in the '39 CS before the other guys got to the garage and after we fixed the LZ we put Don's '37 on the lift to give it a grease job.



After we finished with Don's car we all climbed into the Zephyr and went for (you guessed it) PIZZA... Life is good once more, now it's time to take the LZ for a nice drive.
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I'll bet you're happy things are back to normal. The pickups and Don's '37 are looking good. Good enough to come north for a tour in August!!
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