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Old 01-17-2022, 12:13 AM   #1
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Default Flathead Spark plug Thread Repair

I just picked up a set of aluminum cylinder heads for my flathead. One of the spark plug holes the threads are not in the best condition and the plus has a little wiggle. What is the best process or the best kit to use to repair this head?
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Old 01-17-2022, 01:51 AM   #2
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:01 AM   #3
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Yes they do a good job


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Old 01-17-2022, 10:28 AM   #4
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For the repetitive use that a spark plug thread gets I like this style over the spring type inserts. I have had luck with them on chainsaws and motorcycles with alloy heads. Helicoils, although good, have historically backed out with me when I remove a plug.
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Old 01-17-2022, 04:03 PM   #5
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I prefer to use Time-Serts - they are a threaded sleeve and when properly installed, really do a nice job. They are available in different lengths and they supply the various tools to do the job. The "kits" are not cheap, but many automotive machine shops will have the kits and inserts.

https://time-sert.com/
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Old 01-17-2022, 05:20 PM   #6
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Helicoils are good if you can drill and install them with a mill or drill press to insure they are square with the plug washer seat on the head.

Timeserts have the washer seat integral with the insert so if they have to be drilled by hand as in field repair, the seat will still be square with the thread.
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Old 01-17-2022, 06:21 PM   #7
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I prefer to use Time-Serts - they are a threaded sleeve and when properly installed, really do a nice job. They are available in different lengths and they supply the various tools to do the job. The "kits" are not cheap, but many automotive machine shops will have the kits and inserts.

https://time-sert.com/
I'd used these albeit on rare occasion as a tool maker. Installed properly, they are STRONG. A MUCH better alternative than a Heli-coil. Heli-coils were NEVER used.
Me? Working on an aluminum head? Well, I'd figure I have one opportunity to do this task correctly. There's no question that I'd spend the extra money and buy the time-sert.
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Old 01-17-2022, 06:42 PM   #8
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Time Serts for me, I have many sizes, more $ than helicoils but so much better.
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Old 01-17-2022, 08:09 PM   #9
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Since you've the heads off already it is a simple matter to use a time-sert, I used these for a Lawn-Boy jug with stripped plug threads and they work really slick. Aluminum accepts a tap like butter, it's so easy a cave man could do it. The result is very strong, and permanent.
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Old 01-17-2022, 08:15 PM   #10
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Something that is seldom noted but essential on race engines only is, a sparkplug thread insert of any kind will normally change the plug range one notch.
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:37 PM   #11
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Are the Time Sert inserts closed at the bottom? Hard to tell from the picts.
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Are the Time Sert inserts closed at the bottom? Hard to tell from the picts.
Yes Tim . . . they are completely closed off at the bottom, which totally seals off the combustion chamber - increasing gas mileage and reducing the need for any spark plugs at all!

Just kidding yah - couldn't help it! LOL Not sure what you're asking, but they are a threaded sleeve with a plug gasket sealing surface at the top. Is that what you mean?
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Yes Tim . . . they are completely closed off at the bottom, which totally seals off the combustion chamber - increasing gas mileage and reducing the need for any spark plugs at all!

Just kidding yah - couldn't help it! LOL Not sure what you're asking, but they are a threaded sleeve with a plug gasket sealing surface at the top. Is that what you mean?
Haha. Good one, Dale. I was thinking of the smaller ones 3/8" for intake repair.

I guess going by pictures on the internet is not the best plan of attack, but they appeared to have a closed bottom which was confusing me as to their usage for the exact reasons you joked about.
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Something that is seldom noted but essential on race engines only is, a sparkplug thread insert of any kind will normally change the plug range one notch.
Pete, Why would that be?
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Hotter?
Colder. The heat dissipation has to go through another joint and stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat so it takes longer and the original plug runs hotter.
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Colder. The heat dissipation has to go through another joint and stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat so it takes longer and the original plug runs hotter.
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This probably is a dumb question, but I will ask it anyway, did they ever make a adapter to change the plug size on the earlier heads that used the bigger plugs that were I think 7/8 maybe to the later size commonly used in the 59AB heads? Just curious.
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This probably is a dumb question, but I will ask it anyway, did they ever make a adapter to change the plug size on the earlier heads that used the bigger plugs that were I think 7/8 maybe to the later size commonly used in the 59AB heads? Just curious.
I had a set in a model A engine once. They may still be available from model A parts stores.
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