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Old 10-23-2020, 09:05 AM   #1
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Wonder if anyone has any thoughts on what this car could bring at auction next month? I understand that no one has a crystal ball and ultimately it will bring what someone is willing to pay but curious as to what the market may say about this car?


https://www.mecum.com/lots/LN1120-42...y-convertible/
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Old 10-23-2020, 09:47 AM   #2
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It is a beauty. Based on my sporadic attention during previous events, I would expect a winning bid in the twenty thousands. Shamefully low.
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It probably depends on how bad one bidder wants it and how many are bidding AND how much refreshments they've had and how deep their pockets are. JMO
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Old 10-23-2020, 09:53 AM   #4
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IMO I bet that car will struggle to get to $35,0000/$40,000. With fee's and its not a "popular" year/make PLUS the interested parties are few and far between. "IF" there is two interested parties....... maybe $45,000 to $50,000........ a big "IF"!!!! Again, MO
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$28,000-$41,000 max
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Old 10-23-2020, 12:03 PM   #6
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Just so y'all will know... That is the last car that RAK (Richard A Krist) restored, before his passing. RAK had a restoration shop in Orange County, and has done several award-winning cars. He was well known for paying attention to detail, and trying to do his restorations 'as henry did'. This particular car was done with the intention of trying for a Dearborn, at the Grand National in Dearborn. The car was done in time for the last Grand National, but unfortunately, health issues got in the way. So, I would say to any prospective interested parties, look this one over carefully. I believe you will find high quality and great attention to detail. By-the-way, that is a lacquer paint job, from material he saved from his shop, from back in the days when lacquer was readily available in ca. I would also mention, look closely at his attention to panel fit (without resorting to the tricks that are used today, by adding 'filler' to edges). In particular, notice how the doors fit. He put considerable effort into making the right door fit properly. Finally, this car has a Columbia, as his intention was that this would be a cross-country driver, after the judging.
Obviously, just my observation and opinion. (Bob, long time friend of RAK's)

Off-topic, but, if you look to page 38, of the current V8Times, bottom picture... That 40 Merc in the foreground was also RAK's. It was recently sold, and as noted in the magazine, it now belongs to Maree and Gary. Noteworthy about that 40, it's an original, never been apart. Yes, RAK painted it once, because the original paint went through and it was beginning to look shabby. But, he didn't take it apart. And simply paid great attention to preparation and detail. The 40 also has a Columbia, and during the more than 30 years that RAK owned it, it has made numerous cross country trips.

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Old 10-23-2020, 12:29 PM   #7
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$30-40K max. The market for 40's cars is not as it once was. Newer buyers want resto mod
cars that they can drive on modern highways at "speed".

This may give some idea of value:
https://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/1941...oupe-AT/Values

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Old 10-23-2020, 12:45 PM   #8
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If that was a car I wanted, I would go up to $100,000 without blinking an eye. I don't care what other people on the internet that can only afford a rotted out "project" car think. Cash is really only paper anyway. You can insulate your cardboard box with it or burn it to stay warm but that's about it.


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Old 10-23-2020, 01:23 PM   #9
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Just so y'all will know... That is the last car that RAK (Richard A Krist) restored, before his passing. RAK had a restoration shop in Orange County, and has done several award-winning cars. He was well known for paying attention to detail, and trying to do his restorations 'as henry did'. This particular car was done with the intention of trying for a Dearborn, at the Grand National in Dearborn. The car was done in time for the last Grand National, but unfortunately, health issues got in the way. So, I would say to any prospective interested parties, look this one over carefully. I believe you will find high quality and great attention to detail. By-the-way, that is a lacquer paint job, from material he saved from his shop, from back in the days when lacquer was readily available in ca. I would also mention, look closely at his attention to panel fit (without resorting to the tricks that are used today, by adding 'filler' to edges). In particular, notice how the doors fit. He put considerable effort into making the right door fit properly. Finally, this car has a Columbia, as his intention was that this would be a cross-country driver, after the judging.
Obviously, just my observation and opinion. (Bob, long time friend of RAK's)

Off-topic, but, if you look to page 38, of the current V8Times, bottom picture... That 40 Merc in the foreground was also RAK's. It was recently sold, and as noted in the magazine, it now belongs to Maree and Gary. Noteworthy about that 40, it's an original, never been apart. Yes, RAK painted it once, because the original paint went through and it was beginning to look shabby. But, he didn't take it apart. And simply paid great attention to preparation and detail. The 40 also has a Columbia, and during the more than 30 years that RAK owned it, it has made numerous cross country trips.

Bob, Your post adds considerably to the provenance of the car and should be of value to any new owner.
Are you able to provide confirmation that you have no interest in the sale?
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Recently sold at auction > https://www.classic.com/veh/1941-mer...89301-p6zdqOp/

1941 Mercury Convertible

STATUS: $36,300 SOLD · Sep 5, 2020

VIN: A389301

LOCATION: Auburn, IN


This 1941 Mercury Convertible was last sold at the RM Sotheby's Auburn Fall (2020) classic car auction on Sep 5, 2020
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1941 Mercury Convertible

STATUS: FOR SALE · Nov 13, 2020


This 1941 Mercury Convertible is currently for sale at the Mecum Las Vegas (2020) classic car auction on Nov 13, 2020
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:21 PM   #12
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A $500 Pinto with $3000 dollars worth of tires, rims and a paint job is STILL a $500 Pinto!!! Hope it's NOT the case for this 41 Mercury given the diminishing audience and state of the economy!!!! AND not to compare this car to a Pinto BY NO MEANS........just the logic of the time/money/value aspect of it!!!!
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Old 10-23-2020, 03:14 PM   #13
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Just so y'all will know... That is the last car that RAK (Richard A Krist) restored, before his passing. RAK had a restoration shop in Orange County, and has done several award-winning cars. He was well known for paying attention to detail, and trying to do his restorations 'as henry did'. This particular car was done with the intention of trying for a Dearborn, at the Grand National in Dearborn. The car was done in time for the last Grand National, but unfortunately, health issues got in the way. So, I would say to any prospective interested parties, look this one over carefully. I believe you will find high quality and great attention to detail. By-the-way, that is a lacquer paint job, from material he saved from his shop, from back in the days when lacquer was readily available in ca. I would also mention, look closely at his attention to panel fit (without resorting to the tricks that are used today, by adding 'filler' to edges). In particular, notice how the doors fit. He put considerable effort into making the right door fit properly. Finally, this car has a Columbia, as his intention was that this would be a cross-country driver, after the judging.
Obviously, just my observation and opinion. (Bob, long time friend of RAK's)

Off-topic, but, if you look to page 38, of the current V8Times, bottom picture... That 40 Merc in the foreground was also RAK's. It was recently sold, and as noted in the magazine, it now belongs to Maree and Gary. Noteworthy about that 40, it's an original, never been apart. Yes, RAK painted it once, because the original paint went through and it was beginning to look shabby. But, he didn't take it apart. And simply paid great attention to preparation and detail. The 40 also has a Columbia, and during the more than 30 years that RAK owned it, it has made numerous cross country trips.
Really loved your post! RAK was my grandpa and as you know a HUGE lover of cars and specifically fords. The 36 truck I just finished restoring was his shop truck and regretfully he never got to see it done. When I picked it up from him he made me commit to him I would not put a Chevrolet motor in it! I wish that I had gotten more time to learn what he knew but am thankful to have gotten his love of cars. Your so right about his attention to detail and how much he stressed to do things the “right way.”
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Where are the pictures of the truck??? Make your grandad proud and show us the finished product!!!! I wish the photos that Mecum published were of better quality to show off his fine work!!!
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Here is the thread following its rehab.


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205359

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Old 10-23-2020, 04:18 PM   #16
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It's a crap shoot, if you get two guy's that really want, it who knows. I've seen cars go for a lot less than I would figure and some a lot more. V-8 Fords aren't bringing what they once did, Mercury's do a little better. Now everybody want's Camaro's and Mustang's. Bottom line is, if it's a no reserve auction, be prepared to be disappointed and if you get what you want be happy with it.
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1stFord - nice truck, and the convert is awesome. 41 Mercs always a favorite of mine,
especially the woodies.
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I'll go out on a limb and since it's a hyped up TV auction house, it'll bring something stupid crazy over what realistic value should be. TV car auctions are so dumb I can't bring myself to watch them.
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$38K as a going price without a bidding war.
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It's a crap shoot, if you get two guy's that really want, it who knows. I've seen cars go for a lot less than I would figure and some a lot more. V-8 Fords aren't bringing what they once did, Mercury's do a little better. Now everybody want's Camaro's and Mustang's. Bottom line is, if it's a no reserve auction, be prepared to be disappointed and if you get what you want be happy with it.
Not everyone wants a muscle car, now it's and early bronco, or gasp, a walpapered jeep wagoneer. Beautiful merc btw!
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