Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-19-2020, 10:01 PM   #1
Sheldon Paulger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada
Posts: 10
Default Keyed 6 volt source

Has any one come up with a way to have 6v switched on and off by the ignition key?
Sheldon Paulger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2020, 10:23 PM   #2
1930-Pickup
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: southern California
Posts: 725
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheldon Paulger View Post
Has any one come up with a way to have 6v switched on and off by the ignition key?
Are you talking about an original type pop out switch?
__________________
"That's my wild unsubstantiated guess, and I'm sticking to it regardless of the facts!"

Last edited by 1930-Pickup; 08-20-2020 at 01:25 AM.
1930-Pickup is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 08-20-2020, 07:29 AM   #3
eagle
Senior Member
 
eagle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Eagle Bend, MN
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

If you have an original cutout, you can tie to the input side. It'll only have power when the car is running. Depending on what you plan to use the power for, filtering and conditioning may be a good idea.
__________________
"There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."
eagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2020, 07:47 AM   #4
Badpuppy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Guthrie, OK
Posts: 716
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Would be good to know what it is you're trying to do.

Wiring is from points - switch - coil - battery. (Coil is live at all times.)

If you want to change to switched battery go points - coil - switch - battery. I recommend a fuse.
Badpuppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2020, 09:22 AM   #5
Sheldon Paulger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada
Posts: 10
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Thks for the reply. I originally connected to the input side of the gen cut out, but there is insufficient voltage until about 800-1000 rpm. If possible, I'd like to have an ign key source.
Sheldon Paulger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2020, 09:35 AM   #6
ryanheacox
Senior Member
 
ryanheacox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Northwest CT
Posts: 1,047
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Nu-rex makes a popout lookalike with a keyed accessory terminal. https://www.nurex.com/pop-out-look-a...ssory-terminal
ryanheacox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2020, 10:38 AM   #7
Ruth
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Glide, Oregon
Posts: 658
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Quote:
Originally Posted by Badpuppy View Post
Would be good to know what it is you're trying to do.

Wiring is from points - switch - coil - battery. (Coil is live at all times.)

If you want to change to switched battery go points - coil - switch - battery. I recommend a fuse.
I wired mine battery+ - switch - coil - points - ground. I'm 12v neg ground.
__________________
"Sometimes you really DO need to read the whole thread"
Ruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2020, 03:54 PM   #8
kenparker
Senior Member
 
kenparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Van, Texas
Posts: 1,122
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Are you running an original or original style popout switch??? ken
kenparker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2020, 09:47 AM   #9
Curtis in MA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Leicester, MA
Posts: 213
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

What wires do you switch to get the switch before the coil and points?
I have original 6v wiring.
Curtis in MA is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2020, 09:56 AM   #10
Patrick L.
Senior Member
 
Patrick L.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Upstate NY and western Florida
Posts: 5,965
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtis in MA View Post
What wires do you switch to get the switch before the coil and points?
I have original 6v wiring.



I guess you don't with original pop-out. With an aftermarket normal type switch its easy. Its just terminal box to switch to coil - [ if + grd] then coil + to distributor.
Patrick L. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2020, 10:01 AM   #11
Ruth
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Glide, Oregon
Posts: 658
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtis in MA View Post
What wires do you switch to get the switch before the coil and points?
I have original 6v wiring.


Someone posted this schematic for rewiring ignition switch in order to use an electric shut-off switch. As stated, you can't do this with a Pop Out.
__________________
"Sometimes you really DO need to read the whole thread"
Ruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2020, 11:34 AM   #12
Curtis in MA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Leicester, MA
Posts: 213
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

thanks. Just went out and did it. Took it for a test drive and all went well.
Curtis in MA is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2020, 06:17 PM   #13
Sheldon Paulger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada
Posts: 10
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

my car has the armoured cable coming directly from the ignition switch---this must be the pop out ign switch (although is does not pop out, the cylinder that the key fits into does protrude sits out beyond the face of the instrument panel.)

I went inside the dist and brought a wire outside from the connection at the armoured cable. Engine dies when I connected a LED load. Maybe I need to install a diode to prevent leakage back from the points/condensor??
Sheldon Paulger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2020, 06:33 AM   #14
Patrick L.
Senior Member
 
Patrick L.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Upstate NY and western Florida
Posts: 5,965
Default Re: Keyed 6 volt source

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheldon Paulger View Post
my car has the armoured cable coming directly from the ignition switch---this must be the pop out ign switch (although is does not pop out, the cylinder that the key fits into does protrude sits out beyond the face of the instrument panel.)

I went inside the dist and brought a wire outside from the connection at the armoured cable. Engine dies when I connected a LED load. Maybe I need to install a diode to prevent leakage back from the points/condensor??



?????????/

Just follow the diagram.
Patrick L. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:22 AM.