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Old 05-27-2021, 07:49 PM   #1
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Hey all my name is Scott ,
I just picked this up and it's my first machine it's always been
a dream to have a model a or aa and now it's come true. I'm hoping you all can shed some knowledge on me about where to get started looking for numbers to identify it properly. my best guess is a 1929-1931 AA dump truck but im as fresh as it gets Thanks in advance everyone!
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:51 PM   #2
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Thinking it's a late 30 or 31. They used the square cabs until into 1930. Others will know more.
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Old 05-27-2021, 09:19 PM   #3
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Judging by the wheels, the chassis was probably made after January 1931. The wheels are dated on the inside of the mounting flange. Which may or may not give you an approximate date of the chassis. Some transmissions were dated on the left rear corner of the case machined surface that the shift top bolts to.
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Old 05-27-2021, 11:35 PM   #4
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Great find! Please be extra careful with the split rims. Once they get pitted rusty, they don't hold together well under pressure. One case about 10 years ago, a man was sitting near his shop/garage with an original, but nice 1930 AA like yours. He heard the loudest BANG! One of the front rims let go and put an indentation in his cement block garage wall 8 feet away. The whole garage was filled with red powdery dust. If you can get a copy of say, the Les Andrews Model A shop manual, it will really help you out with the restoration. There are many fine books that will guide you to all the answers. I know you must have many questions. Good luck!
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Old 05-28-2021, 01:39 AM   #5
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As Mas A Man says, be carful of split rims. Many men have been killed by them. Given your location, I think there is a decent chance your truck is of Canadian original. Look for the Robertson head screws and engine number for proof.
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Old 05-28-2021, 06:16 AM   #6
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I worked in a truck repair shop when in high school. They installed a cage for airing up tires after mounting. The guy who did the tire work said "I ain't getting in that cage with a tire."
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Old 05-28-2021, 07:39 AM   #7
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When I was in high school we lowered the drive-on grease rack across the wheel when we aired it up.
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Old 05-28-2021, 09:32 AM   #8
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It is a 1930 or 1931 "AA" Truck. Your truck has a car radiator shell and likely it has the wrong radiator for a "AA." The commercial radiator shell was plain steel painted black and much wider than the car's shell to accommodate a radiator with more rows of tubes.

The headlight buckets were also made of plain steel and painted black.
Do a driving restoration of the truck for your maximum fun. First make it safe to drive.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:06 AM   #9
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Replace that windshield with safety glass. The engine number is stamped just below the head on the driver’s side. It should begin with AA, but if it’s Canadian it might start with CA. (I’m not sure about that, but it seems I read that somewhere.) The engine number might give a clue as to approx. mfg date.
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Old 05-28-2021, 01:39 PM   #10
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Before you try to start the engine drop the oil pan .pop out the dipper tray and clean everything . When you drop the pan the oil pump will drop out with it .Make sure the pump is clean and the guaze screen is clear .When you put the pan back on hold the pump up with a cable tie looped through the pan bolt holes around the stalk of the pump .With the pan nearly home clip the tie and pull clear . The oil on your dipstick will look clear and golden but the lower level could be nasty gloop around the oil pump pickup . Clean out the valve chest the main bearings are lubricated by three holes one at each end and one in the middle . If your truck is running driving over some time with known history no more harm could be done this really applies to vehicles that have not moved for many a long day .

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Old 05-28-2021, 02:19 PM   #11
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Is it me or does the body look like it has been replaced by a car body? OT sure if the AA came with a SS cowl band. Either way that is a cool truck! Make her safe to drive and then have some fun.

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Old 05-28-2021, 02:33 PM   #12
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All good advice!

Another way to hold the oil pump up is a tool like this https://www.brattons.com/oil-pump-holder-tool.html

I made my own by drilling and tapping a brass 1/8” npt plug .
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[QUOTE=1930artdeco;2021097]Is it me or does the body look like it has been replaced by a car body? OT sure if the AA came with a SS cowl band. Either way that is a cool truck! Make her safe to drive and then have some fun.

That's what I was thinking also, I don't see any subrail.
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Old 05-28-2021, 05:03 PM   #14
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If it's not 30s then its 31

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Old 05-28-2021, 06:19 PM   #15
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Great find. Best of luck....
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Old 05-28-2021, 06:23 PM   #16
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The front bumper and brackets may be correct for a later V8 Ford truck. Bob
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IMO, the correct this or the wrong that don't matter. Get it running reliably and safely and drive the wheels off it.
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Old 05-28-2021, 09:05 PM   #18
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Barn Find - 1930/1931 Ford Model AA Truck. Great find.
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Old 05-29-2021, 01:02 AM   #19
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Drain the 4 speed transmission as it will for sure have a lot of rainwater in it .If the truck has been out in the weather for a longtime with no roof rainwater runs down the shifter reverse guard rod into the trans case . My 31 AA had been out in the weather and the cab had disintergrated water had filled the trans and had migrated down through the jackshaft casing into the torque tube and then into the back axle . The 600 WT oil is a very good preservative and I got away with it but all the bearings were shot .My local bearing factor had the bearings on the shelf to my surprise as they were all "current" this was in the early eighties . Unbolt the trans top after taking the handbrake lever off the side and check what has gone on inside also tower condition .

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Old 05-29-2021, 08:39 AM   #20
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The front bumper and brackets may be correct for a later V8 Ford truck. Bob
Bumper looks correct for AA as in judging standards......
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