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Del in NE Ohio · 01-21-2019, 10:25 AM

This is my first rodeo with downdraft carb. I understand the need to run insulator between carb and manifold. My question is does the phenolic spacer still require the use of carb gasket between carb and spacer? Between spacer and manifold? Both? Neither?

KULTULZ · 01-21-2019, 11:38 AM

Both ...

Del in NE Ohio · 01-21-2019, 04:05 PM

Tnx for your help!

KULTULZ · 01-21-2019, 05:13 PM

You are quite welcome and THANX! for thanking...

RandyMettler · 02-16-2019, 01:25 PM

Since you haven't received any related assistance to your question, I
listed two company that sells the phenolic spacers one states it is not necessary but they recommend installing the gaskets on both sides of the phenolic spacers. They are referencing a manifold to engine block spacer but I believe the same applies to carb spacers.

The other company sells two gaskets with the spacers.

I would install the gaskets if anything just because of the added insulation with the two gaskets. They are cheap.

Not suggesting the diet pill is also a good heads up. A good fight can ruin a day more than a hard start condition!

https://www.grimmspeed.com/phenolic-...i-lgt-fxt-8mm/

https://www.jegs.com/c/Fuel-Carbs-In...10289/10002/-1

I am thinking of putting spacers on my 94s. I have hard start hot issues. If it works or does not work for you please post your results.

Regards

flathead 53 · 02-16-2019, 03:48 PM

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Yes you will need the gaskets ,Also check out a company called cool carb they make a nice spacer ,prevents vapor lock ,using one on my 53 f-100

scicala · 02-16-2019, 06:31 PM

"Since you haven't received any related assistance to your question, I
listed two company that sells the phenolic spacers one states it is not necessary but they recommend installing the gaskets on both sides of the phenolic spacers. They are referencing a manifold to engine block spacer but I believe the same applies to carb spacers."

Read post #2.

Sal

54vicky · 02-17-2019, 08:52 AM

as sal said read post #2 if not needed they would not be included.

rotorwrench · 02-17-2019, 12:20 PM

The "Stromberg 97" was what caught my eye. The question asked was certainly answered but the brand name likely indicates an aftermarket carb. Ford only used Stromberg carbs for a few years before going to the Holley 94 & later models. Ford didn't use spacers as a general rule but some folks used them to prevent vapor lock during warmer times of the year and in warmer climates. Now days, only the winter stock fuels cause vapor lock when the weather goes through sudden warming spells. Winter stock fuel is better for cold starts but vapor locks easily during warm spells.

A spacer certainly won't hurt a thing whether it's a Holly 94 or a Stromberg 97.

LD-Ordie · 02-21-2019, 09:37 AM

So my 55 292 has 3 94's. All three would get so hot after a shut down in the summer, they would boil the fuel in the float bowl, then flooding the engine so a quick re-start would be an issue. I went with the 1/2" phenolic spacers on all 3 carbs, which solved my problem completely. Lots are available on eBay for around $30. with 2 gaskets

01-21-2019, 10:25 AM	#1
Del in NE Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbiana,OH Posts: 461	Stromberg 97-insulator question This is my first rodeo with downdraft carb. I understand the need to run insulator between carb and manifold. My question is does the phenolic spacer still require the use of carb gasket between carb and spacer? Between spacer and manifold? Both? Neither?

01-21-2019, 04:05 PM	#3
Del in NE Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbiana,OH Posts: 461	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question Tnx for your help!

01-21-2019, 05:13 PM	#4
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,471	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question You are quite welcome and THANX! for thanking... __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

02-16-2019, 01:25 PM	#5
RandyMettler Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 128	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question Since you haven't received any related assistance to your question, I listed two company that sells the phenolic spacers one states it is not necessary but they recommend installing the gaskets on both sides of the phenolic spacers. They are referencing a manifold to engine block spacer but I believe the same applies to carb spacers. The other company sells two gaskets with the spacers. I would install the gaskets if anything just because of the added insulation with the two gaskets. They are cheap. Not suggesting the diet pill is also a good heads up. A good fight can ruin a day more than a hard start condition! https://www.grimmspeed.com/phenolic-...i-lgt-fxt-8mm/ https://www.jegs.com/c/Fuel-Carbs-In...10289/10002/-1 I am thinking of putting spacers on my 94s. I have hard start hot issues. If it works or does not work for you please post your results. Regards Last edited by RandyMettler; 02-16-2019 at 01:35 PM.

02-16-2019, 03:48 PM	#6
flathead 53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: central nj Posts: 717	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Yes you will need the gaskets ,Also check out a company called cool carb they make a nice spacer ,prevents vapor lock ,using one on my 53 f-100

01-21-2019, 11:38 AM	#2
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,471	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question Both ... __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

02-16-2019, 06:31 PM	#7
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,703	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question "Since you haven't received any related assistance to your question, I listed two company that sells the phenolic spacers one states it is not necessary but they recommend installing the gaskets on both sides of the phenolic spacers. They are referencing a manifold to engine block spacer but I believe the same applies to carb spacers." Read post #2. Sal

02-17-2019, 08:52 AM	#8
54vicky Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Oakville Ontario Posts: 586	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question as sal said read post #2 if not needed they would not be included.

02-17-2019, 12:20 PM	#9
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question The "Stromberg 97" was what caught my eye. The question asked was certainly answered but the brand name likely indicates an aftermarket carb. Ford only used Stromberg carbs for a few years before going to the Holley 94 & later models. Ford didn't use spacers as a general rule but some folks used them to prevent vapor lock during warmer times of the year and in warmer climates. Now days, only the winter stock fuels cause vapor lock when the weather goes through sudden warming spells. Winter stock fuel is better for cold starts but vapor locks easily during warm spells. A spacer certainly won't hurt a thing whether it's a Holly 94 or a Stromberg 97.

02-21-2019, 09:37 AM	#10
LD-Ordie Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Ridgecrest, CA Posts: 74	Re: Stromberg 97-insulator question So my 55 292 has 3 94's. All three would get so hot after a shut down in the summer, they would boil the fuel in the float bowl, then flooding the engine so a quick re-start would be an issue. I went with the 1/2" phenolic spacers on all 3 carbs, which solved my problem completely. Lots are available on eBay for around $30. with 2 gaskets