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carolinamudwalker · 09-03-2016, 10:06 AM

I have a problem with my wheels that I have not seen on the Barn. My lug nut holes are to big from years of use. I have the thicker SS washers but still need to grind them down so they do not protrude beyond the rim. I have also bought SS lug nuts that are used on boat trailers. They have a much wider contact surface than the model A nuts but I still have to grind them down, The July-August issue of the MODEL A NEWS has a great article

on repairing rims but does not address the lug nut holes. Wheels are good other wise. Is there any fix for this problem? Or is there anyone out there that has good wheels they would like to sell? Thanks in advance Bob

oldwoodsman · 09-03-2016, 02:18 PM

Bob will these work for you? http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/wheel-nut-washers

marty in Ohio · 09-03-2016, 03:26 PM

I use the washers/spacers that oldwoodsman suggested. They help with woggled out holes and also they don't chip the paint on the wheels.
Marty

jw hash · 09-03-2016, 04:41 PM

if the holes in your wheels are so bad that the washers will not tighten up. throw the wheels away. life is to short as it is.

Synchro909 · 09-03-2016, 04:47 PM

I have several sets of those washers on the 12 wheels I have on the ground. Most of them are useless because they have split. Quality very poor.

C26Pinelake · 09-03-2016, 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jw hash

if the holes in your wheels are so bad that the washers will not tighten up. throw the wheels away. life is to short as it is.

I could not agree more ! A little common sense goes a long way. wayne

richsfords · 09-03-2016, 05:31 PM

total agreement with JW#4 not worth the dollars, Its time to R and R.
But don't do it before our trip to the USS NC

Al 29Tudor · 09-03-2016, 09:14 PM

Model A wheels are unique in that the lug nuts and studs actually carry the weight of the car.
Unlike other cars where the lug nuts only hold the wheels on and the weight of the car is carried by a close fit with the center of the wheel to the drums.
Your lug nuts may actually be tightening against the drums and not the wheels.
Al

carolinamudwalker · 09-04-2016, 07:03 AM

Wow AL, I did not know that. I guess it should have been obvious. That enplanes why the lug nut holes ware on a model A and not on modern cars.

carolinamudwalker · 09-04-2016, 01:46 PM

OK JW. but the car drives like crap on the brake drums

captndan · 09-04-2016, 03:59 PM

A good fab shop can weld up those wheels and machine in the new holes. Common practice on old tractor wheels.

09-03-2016, 10:06 AM	#1
carolinamudwalker Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 45	Wheels I have a problem with my wheels that I have not seen on the Barn. My lug nut holes are to big from years of use. I have the thicker SS washers but still need to grind them down so they do not protrude beyond the rim. I have also bought SS lug nuts that are used on boat trailers. They have a much wider contact surface than the model A nuts but I still have to grind them down, The July-August issue of the MODEL A NEWS has a great article on repairing rims but does not address the lug nut holes. Wheels are good other wise. Is there any fix for this problem? Or is there anyone out there that has good wheels they would like to sell? Thanks in advance Bob

09-03-2016, 02:18 PM	#2
oldwoodsman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Duluth, MN Posts: 196	Re: Wheels Bob will these work for you? http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/wheel-nut-washers

09-03-2016, 03:26 PM	#3
marty in Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 756	Re: Wheels I use the washers/spacers that oldwoodsman suggested. They help with woggled out holes and also they don't chip the paint on the wheels. Marty

09-03-2016, 04:47 PM	#5
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Wheels I have several sets of those washers on the 12 wheels I have on the ground. Most of them are useless because they have split. Quality very poor. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

09-03-2016, 05:31 PM	#7
richsfords Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 140	Re: Wheels total agreement with JW#4 not worth the dollars, Its time to R and R. But don't do it before our trip to the USS NC __________________ *Richard in New Bern.* *When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it” - Henry Ford***

09-03-2016, 04:41 PM	#4
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: Wheels if the holes in your wheels are so bad that the washers will not tighten up. throw the wheels away. life is to short as it is.

09-03-2016, 09:14 PM	#8
Al 29Tudor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 648	Re: Wheels Model A wheels are unique in that the lug nuts and studs actually carry the weight of the car. Unlike other cars where the lug nuts only hold the wheels on and the weight of the car is carried by a close fit with the center of the wheel to the drums. Your lug nuts may actually be tightening against the drums and not the wheels. Al

09-04-2016, 07:03 AM	#9
carolinamudwalker Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 45	Re: Wheels Wow AL, I did not know that. I guess it should have been obvious. That enplanes why the lug nut holes ware on a model A and not on modern cars.

09-04-2016, 01:46 PM	#10
carolinamudwalker Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 45	Re: Wheels OK JW. but the car drives like crap on the brake drums

09-04-2016, 03:59 PM	#11
captndan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Tennessee Posts: 714	Re: Wheels A good fab shop can weld up those wheels and machine in the new holes. Common practice on old tractor wheels.