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Ken/Alabama · 05-14-2022, 09:10 PM

I’m trying to stay original on my 40 sedan. The problem I’m having is with thes repop hose clamps. They seem very flimsy and the screw heads have a very shallow slot. Having some leaks . Is there another alternative other than a worm clamp ?

J Franklin · 05-14-2022, 09:20 PM

Buy a better machine screw. One made in America!

petehoovie · 05-14-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by J Franklin

Buy a better machine screw. One made in America!

tubman · 05-14-2022, 10:09 PM

I think you need better clamps. Those look like cheap reproductions made of thinner metal than the originals. Look how the tab under the screw head has kind of given up on "standing tall". I have made it a point to keep all of the original hose clamps from all of the engines I have salvaged. I have the originals on my '51 and they look a lot more substantial than these, and they don't bend.

The remark on the machine screw also applies to the clamp itself. I would think that NOS clamps are out there someplace, given that they are "replacement" items and were used for many other applications. "SouthSide Obsolete"? (They seem to have everything.)

J Franklin · 05-15-2022, 11:24 AM

From the enlarged photo it looks like you could go 1 size larger on the clamp. That one looks too small.

deuce lover · 05-15-2022, 12:18 PM

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They look like the junk ones that come in the hose kits. I tossed mine and bought the good ones at the parts stores.They have socket head bolts and tighten up nicely.

Kube · 05-15-2022, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken/Alabama

I’m trying to stay original on my 40 sedan. The problem I’m having is with thes repop hose clamps. They seem very flimsy and the screw heads have a very shallow slot. Having some leaks . Is there another alternative other than a worm clamp ?

I'd suggest you utilize Indian Head Shellac. Even with the repop clamps, the leaks will become a non-issue.

GaryU. · 05-15-2022, 03:56 PM

Follow Kube’s advice regarding Indian Head Shellac. Using it and no leaks so far.

ford38v8 · 05-15-2022, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube

I'd suggest you utilize Indian Head Shellac. Even with the repop clamps, the leaks will become a non-issue.

We're going to have to start calling you Indian Head Mike. I bet you even use it on your breakfast cereal in the morning!

Fairlane514 · 06-04-2022, 10:25 AM

Try the constant tension style hose clamp, can expand and contract with heat and maintain a seal......they come on modern day cars.

36and63 · 06-04-2022, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube

I'd suggest you utilize Indian Head Shellac. Even with the repop clamps, the leaks will become a non-issue.

I have never heard of using this for radiator hoses Kube. Does it make it difficult to remove the hoses after using?

Pat

RKS.PA · 06-04-2022, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube

I'd suggest you utilize Indian Head Shellac. Even with the repop clamps, the leaks will become a non-issue.

Great stuff!! Also good for many gasket applications. However, the Indian Chief in full headdress is no longer on the bottle, along with the words "Indian Head Shellac"!

Now called " Original Permatex Gasket Shellac Compound".Political correctness has come to Permatex!!

petehoovie · 06-04-2022, 04:16 PM

Today @ https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ptx-20539

Kube · 06-05-2022, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 36and63

I have never heard of using this for radiator hoses Kube. Does it make it difficult to remove the hoses after using?

Pat

No problem whatsoever ...
This shellac has been around I believe since the 1940's. An "old timer" thing that works, period. It simply works!
It is imperative that the instructions be followed. Simple enough, allow the shellac to become tacky prior to fitment. That's it!

RKS.PA · 06-05-2022, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

Today @ https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ptx-20539

This is not the bottle you'll find on the store shelves or on Amazon delivery. But, it's now a collector item!!

petehoovie · 06-05-2022, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RKS.PA

This is not the bottle you'll find on the store shelves or on Amazon delivery. But, it's now a collector item!!

At AMAZON today > https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-2053.../dp/B0008KLOG6

At AUTOZONE today > https://www.autozone.com/sealants-gl...-oz/526723_0_0

At O'REILLY today > https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c...und/pera/20539

At NAPA today > https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/PTX7651229

At PERMATEX today > https://www.permatex.com/products/ga...compound-2-oz/

RKS.PA · 06-05-2022, 01:49 PM

Hi Pete,
Here's what I got this week from Amazon. The part # is the same....20539, but alas, no Indian!!Shellac.jpg

petehoovie · 06-05-2022, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RKS.PA

Hi Pete,
Here's what I got this week from Amazon. The part # is the same....20539, but alas, no Indian!!Attachment 491257

Yours is the "collector item"...

As seen on eBay > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...ellac&_sacat=0

RKS.PA · 06-05-2022, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

Yours is the "collector item"...

As seen on eBay > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...ellac&_sacat=0

That would be very cool!! I hate this "politically correct" crap!!

Frank Miller · 06-06-2022, 08:35 AM

Ken, It was good to meet you in Tennessee. I recently replaced some hoses and clamps on my 49 and noticed the new ones are made heavier than the repops I put on 17 or so years ago.
That said, also check the cast iron on your neck connection. I've filled in excessive pitting with JB weld and sanded smooth.

05-14-2022, 09:20 PM	#2
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Hose Clamps Buy a better machine screw. One made in America!

05-14-2022, 10:09 PM	#4
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,316	Re: Hose Clamps I think you need better clamps. Those look like cheap reproductions made of thinner metal than the originals. Look how the tab under the screw head has kind of given up on "standing tall". I have made it a point to keep all of the original hose clamps from all of the engines I have salvaged. I have the originals on my '51 and they look a lot more substantial than these, and they don't bend. The remark on the machine screw also applies to the clamp itself. I would think that NOS clamps are out there someplace, given that they are "replacement" items and were used for many other applications. "SouthSide Obsolete"? (They seem to have everything.)

05-15-2022, 11:24 AM	#5
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Hose Clamps From the enlarged photo it looks like you could go 1 size larger on the clamp. That one looks too small.

05-15-2022, 12:18 PM	#6
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,306	Re: Hose Clamps Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) They look like the junk ones that come in the hose kits. I tossed mine and bought the good ones at the parts stores.They have socket head bolts and tighten up nicely.

05-15-2022, 03:56 PM	#8
GaryU. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Beaver Dam, Wisconsin Posts: 821	Re: Hose Clamps Follow Kube’s advice regarding Indian Head Shellac. Using it and no leaks so far.

06-04-2022, 10:25 AM	#10
Fairlane514 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 105	Re: Hose Clamps Try the constant tension style hose clamp, can expand and contract with heat and maintain a seal......they come on modern day cars.

06-04-2022, 04:16 PM	#13
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,137	Re: Hose Clamps Today @ https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ptx-20539 __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

06-05-2022, 01:49 PM	#17
RKS.PA Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marana, AZ Posts: 1,194	Re: Hose Clamps Hi Pete, Here's what I got this week from Amazon. The part # is the same....20539, but alas, no Indian!!Shellac.jpg

06-06-2022, 08:35 AM	#20
Frank Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn, MA Posts: 2,106	Re: Hose Clamps Ken, It was good to meet you in Tennessee. I recently replaced some hoses and clamps on my 49 and noticed the new ones are made heavier than the repops I put on 17 or so years ago. That said, also check the cast iron on your neck connection. I've filled in excessive pitting with JB weld and sanded smooth. __________________ “The technique of infamy is to start two lies at once and get people arguing heatedly over which is true.” ~ Ezra Pound