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32Bee · 07-26-2015, 06:50 AM

When I restored my 32 many years ago I used Dupont Centari 99A Pitch Black
for all of my chassis parts. The name has now been changed to Axalta as
Dupont Paints were bought out a number of years ago. I've been told today's
99A is the same as it always was. Has anyone used the product recently and, if
so, what do you have for comments?

Peter

Cadillac · 07-26-2015, 07:01 AM

I last used it about 2 years ago. It still said Dupont Centari 99A Pitch Black on the label. 8022 reducer and the best hardener, I think 893? It looked and worked the same as 40 years ago.

PeterC · 07-26-2015, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter in NH

When I restored my 32 many years ago I used Dupont Centari 99A Pitch Black
for all of my chassis parts. The name has now been changed to Axalta as
Dupont Paints were bought out a number of years ago. I've been told today's
99A is the same as it always was. Has anyone used the product recently and, if
so, what do you have for comments?

Peter

My 35 3 window body was painted 2 years ago with Centari Pitch Black - I am not aware that the name changed.

rotorwrench · 07-26-2015, 08:49 AM

Dupont Paint division was sold to Axalta and a lot of changes have taken place since. My local jober handles the Imron Elite SS paint but it is not the same as the original polyurethane formula. There suposedly is an Aerospace version called Imron 6000 but my local jober doesnt stock it. San Antonio doesn't have enough customer base for the aerospace products.

As far as Centari acrylic enamel, I don't know if there have been changes yet but there likely will be. Axalta wants to market their own crap under the Dupont name. I'm not impressed with their Imron Elite SS.

4t8v8 · 07-26-2015, 08:57 AM

When I repainted my F1 in '95 I used 1988 Lincoln Dove Gray Centari. Last year I tried to buy a quart for touch up. They tried to cross the numbers over to Axalta but could not match it. Way too light. They gave me some black so I could work on matching it myself. Finally got it close. Disappointing.

Farley's34 · 07-26-2015, 03:11 PM

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You may still find the name Centari on label at a jobber who has old stock. Remember, a while back they took the lead out.

G.M. · 07-26-2015, 03:48 PM

Carlisle Co bought Dupont paint division for $4.9 billion about a year ago. I think Centari with hardner is or was one of the best paints available. My granddaughter
worked for Dupont and now Carlisle developing colors for new car manufactures.
Carlisle also owns Dunkin Donuts. I'll have to ask her about Centari. G.M.

Cecil/WV · 07-26-2015, 05:45 PM

Is an air supplied mask required when eating a Dunkin Donut?? LOL

4dFord/SC · 07-26-2015, 06:03 PM

Hmmm. My last cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee was Pitch Black.

Carl · 07-26-2015, 07:39 PM

...hey, that's funny, I don't care where you're from...

32Bee · 07-27-2015, 05:00 AM

Thanks guys for all your replies. I'll have to see if I can scout out a local
body shop that uses today's Centari to see what they have to offer.

Peter

G.M. · 07-27-2015, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter in NH

Thanks guys for all your replies. I'll have to see if I can scout out a local
body shop that uses today's Centari to see what they have to offer.

Peter

Call the paint suppliers that service body shops in your area they can tell you shops that use Centari. G.M.

rotorwrench · 07-27-2015, 01:53 PM

Carlyle group was the investment company that purchased the Dupont coatings division in order to make money with it. It was reformed as Axalta using Spies Hecker products, Standox products and the Dupont products. They are now big into waterborn products and will go the way that all corporations go. Whatever sells best is produced and what doesn't goes away. Warren Buffet just recently invested near 560 million bucks into it so you know they are there to make him and all the other investors the big bucks.

russcc · 07-27-2015, 02:31 PM

Peter, you could try Rainbow Supply in Braintree Mass or Providence Lacquer in RI

V12Bill · 07-27-2015, 03:29 PM

It doesn't surprise me that the Centari label is only the same as the old paper label. Formulas are probably different and a good match will be impossible to find. Now days, the EPA is requiring body shops to go to water base paints. Drying equipment costs thousands, new paint guns are required and there is a learning curve to cope with. The good old days went with the flat heads.

07-26-2015, 06:50 AM	#1
32Bee Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stratham, NH Posts: 236	Dupont Centari Paint When I restored my 32 many years ago I used Dupont Centari 99A Pitch Black for all of my chassis parts. The name has now been changed to Axalta as Dupont Paints were bought out a number of years ago. I've been told today's 99A is the same as it always was. Has anyone used the product recently and, if so, what do you have for comments? Peter

07-26-2015, 07:01 AM	#2
Cadillac Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4	Re: Dupont Centari Paint I last used it about 2 years ago. It still said Dupont Centari 99A Pitch Black on the label. 8022 reducer and the best hardener, I think 893? It looked and worked the same as 40 years ago.

07-26-2015, 08:49 AM	#4
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,449	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Dupont Paint division was sold to Axalta and a lot of changes have taken place since. My local jober handles the Imron Elite SS paint but it is not the same as the original polyurethane formula. There suposedly is an Aerospace version called Imron 6000 but my local jober doesnt stock it. San Antonio doesn't have enough customer base for the aerospace products. As far as Centari acrylic enamel, I don't know if there have been changes yet but there likely will be. Axalta wants to market their own crap under the Dupont name. I'm not impressed with their Imron Elite SS.

07-26-2015, 08:57 AM	#5
4t8v8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 524	Re: Dupont Centari Paint When I repainted my F1 in '95 I used 1988 Lincoln Dove Gray Centari. Last year I tried to buy a quart for touch up. They tried to cross the numbers over to Axalta but could not match it. Way too light. They gave me some black so I could work on matching it myself. Finally got it close. Disappointing. Last edited by 4t8v8; 07-26-2015 at 08:59 AM. Reason: Wrong info.

07-26-2015, 03:11 PM	#6
Farley's34 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Albany New York Posts: 505	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) You may still find the name Centari on label at a jobber who has old stock. Remember, a while back they took the lead out.

07-26-2015, 03:48 PM	#7
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Carlisle Co bought Dupont paint division for $4.9 billion about a year ago. I think Centari with hardner is or was one of the best paints available. My granddaughter worked for Dupont and now Carlisle developing colors for new car manufactures. Carlisle also owns Dunkin Donuts. I'll have to ask her about Centari. G.M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

07-26-2015, 05:45 PM	#8
Cecil/WV Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gerrardstown, WV Posts: 2,266	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Is an air supplied mask required when eating a Dunkin Donut?? LOL

07-26-2015, 06:03 PM	#9
4dFord/SC Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,579	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Hmmm. My last cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee was Pitch Black.

07-26-2015, 07:39 PM	#10
Carl Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ingleside,TX Posts: 410	Re: Dupont Centari Paint ...hey, that's funny, I don't care where you're from...

07-27-2015, 05:00 AM	#11
32Bee Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stratham, NH Posts: 236	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Thanks guys for all your replies. I'll have to see if I can scout out a local body shop that uses today's Centari to see what they have to offer. Peter

07-27-2015, 01:53 PM	#13
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,449	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Carlyle group was the investment company that purchased the Dupont coatings division in order to make money with it. It was reformed as Axalta using Spies Hecker products, Standox products and the Dupont products. They are now big into waterborn products and will go the way that all corporations go. Whatever sells best is produced and what doesn't goes away. Warren Buffet just recently invested near 560 million bucks into it so you know they are there to make him and all the other investors the big bucks.

07-27-2015, 02:31 PM	#14
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Dupont Centari Paint Peter, you could try Rainbow Supply in Braintree Mass or Providence Lacquer in RI

07-27-2015, 03:29 PM	#15
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: Dupont Centari Paint It doesn't surprise me that the Centari label is only the same as the old paper label. Formulas are probably different and a good match will be impossible to find. Now days, the EPA is requiring body shops to go to water base paints. Drying equipment costs thousands, new paint guns are required and there is a learning curve to cope with. The good old days went with the flat heads.