Ford Script on oil cans ? repro ID ?

[d.]

I have 3 script oil cans and the Ford script is a different size on each of them.
Is there a Model T size script and a Model A size script?
> also how do you ID a repro oil can?

both my script oil cans are steel...is this original?
thank you all for your input.

[2manycars]

Original oil cans were copper plated steel. The model T and A cans were the same shape, but the T has large script, and the A small script. The cap has female threads and the can male threads. They were used until about may of 28.

[DougVieyra]

Original Oil Cans had a finer thread, the reproduction cans (which do look extremely close to originals) have a courser thread. As usual in Ford parts, there were most likely several suppliers, which may account for subtle nuances of differences in the oil cans provided by Ford. As has been mentioned above (2manyCars), they were only Factory Issued in 1928, first half of the year for the most part.

[glenn in camino]

My tudor is a June, 6/1/28. Should it have an oil can?

[DougVieyra]

Consult the MARC/MAFCA "Restoration & Judging Standards" for a general time-frame.

[Tom Wesenberg]

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I don't have the STANDARDS handy, but thought the oil can was dropped about March 1928.

I like the idea of an oil can under the hood, and I might make a holder for each of my A's.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I don't have the STANDARDS handy, but thought the oil can was dropped about March 1928.

I like the idea of an oil can under the hood, and I might make a holder for each of my A's.

Tom,
Check on re-pro parts for Old Jeeps. They sell a neat, simple oil can bracket.
After Vermin's driving, I'll mount Chiefs' YELLOW, John Deere, Plews, pumper type squirt can. It's getting quite OLD now. It even has his NAME scratched on it!
Bill W.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

I don't have the STANDARDS handy, but thought the oil can was dropped about March 1928.

I like the idea of an oil can under the hood, and I might make a holder for each of my A's.

May 1928 they were dropped, and yes copper plated steel.

[RUNNERBUN]

Does anyone have a picture of how and where they were originally fitted.

[John Stone]

Originally Posted by RUNNERBUN

Does anyone have a picture of how and where they were originally fitted.

They were supplied but there was no bracket so I guess you just kept them in your tool box.

[JohnLaVoy]

wait I have a bracket for mine! It mounts to the gas tank to cowl bolts.

[John Stone]

Originally Posted by JohnLaVoy

wait I have a bracket for mine! It mounts to the gas tank to cowl bolts.

There is no part number for the bracket either T or A. It was probably supplied by Western Auto or some other after market company.

[DougVieyra]

The oil can came with a bracket that mounted to the firewall on the bolted "seam" where the two halves of the firewall came together, using one of the firewall bolts. Remember, this oil can (and this bracket) only came on the cars built in the first halve of 1928; later cars would not have come with this oil can or bracket. This bracket had a spring loaded two-part bottom with grasping tabs that held the bottom ridge of the oil can in place.

I'll closely inspect my two original brackets for a manufacturer's mark/stamp the next time I brave the cold and snow to get to my car barn.

The reason we still have a 'Judging Standards Committee', is that there is still much to learn about the Model A and it's parts, pieces, and production. Perhaps sometime 'down the road' this unique oil can bracket may have it's FORD antecedents revealed. Or, it may turn out to be a 'Western Auto' (etc.) product; although none of my products catalogs of the era (1920's through the 1930's) shows it.

[Mark W.]

I know it is not right, but when I got my 29 Roadster it had a starter solenoid added to the firewall and when I corrected this I added an oil can bracket salvaged from a friends mid 20's Studebaker parts car to cover the holes - a real simple bracket but it looks like it was there for a long time...

[DougVieyra]

Your oil can bracket looks similiar to the ones being currently sold thru some Model A Parts Houses. Especially for those Model A's (1930-'31) that don't have a firewall mounting, these 'after market' brackets work well, and do look 'vintage'.

[John Stone]

Originally Posted by DougVieyra

The oil can came with a bracket that mounted to the firewall on the bolted "seam" where the two halves of the firewall came together, using one of the firewall bolts. Remember, this oil can (and this bracket) only came on the cars built in the first halve of 1928; later cars would not have come with this oil can or bracket. This bracket had a spring loaded two-part bottom with grasping tabs that held the bottom ridge of the oil can in place.

I'll closely inspect my two original brackets for a manufacturer's mark/stamp the next time I brave the cold and snow to get to my car barn.

The reason we still have a 'Judging Standards Committee', is that there is still much to learn about the Model A and it's parts, pieces, and production. Perhaps sometime 'down the road' this unique oil can bracket may have it's FORD antecedents revealed. Or, it may turn out to be a 'Western Auto' (etc.) product; although none of my products catalogs of the era (1920's through the 1930's) shows it.

My January 28 parts price list shows the oil can but no bracket is shown and does not appear any where in the A or T parts lists. I did see a nice bracket on a mid 20's REO truck. My April 28 Business Coupe had no evidence that a bracket was ever attached to the fire wall.

[Chris Haynes]

I oil my distributor and generator with the drop of oil on the end of my dipstick. No oil can needed. :-)

[1931 flamingo]

Snyder's shows a brkt for the T that I was going to order and see if it could be used. FWIW
paul in CT

[CarlG]

I have one of these:

[5lugnuts]

During WWII Ford made almost half of the jeeps produced. Each jeep had a bracket and oil can under the hood as did the Willies. I think the oil cans and brackets were "F" stamped on the Fords but not certain. Every nut and bolt on a Ford jeep was "F" stamped. The brackets and cans should be available as repros from WWII jeep parts suppliers.

[al's28/33]

repro or not, I like mine!

[Ronnie Lawson]

Oil Can.jpg
Attached is the Ford Script Oil Can assembly print
Note on the Ford assembly print it states "for tool kit."

[DougVieyra]

Well Done Ronnie ! That is the kind of 'facts' I like. And it helps clarify the answer to the question regarding a holding bracket for the oil can.

[Rich in Tucson]

There is a nice article by Roy Hess on Ford script oil cans in Volume 50, #4 (July/August 2015) issue of "The Vintage Ford" from the Model T Ford Club of America.

He surveyed eBay for 6 months in 2012-2013 and observed 427 cans for sale of which 295 sold for $9-$184. Sixteen different cans were identified including some "new" ones made by an original manufacturer, Eagle, given away as promotional items in the 1980s.

[tinman080]

I've got an Obsolete Ford Parts catalog from 1977, they were based in Long Beach, California, which lists the exact reproduction Ford oil can. Wonder how many are being traded as ''vintage'' Ford Cans? lol