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art ebeling · 03-09-2022, 10:22 AM

What are these empty holes in my 1936 intake used for? Also the holes in both waterpumps and the two on the bellhousing. The number stamped on the bellhousing is 18 2761299, is it a babbit or insert block? Thanks, Art

Kube · 03-09-2022, 10:33 AM

Intake: It's not the correct intake for a '36.
#1 and #2 are for vacuum lines.
#3 and #4 are locating holes - there are dowels in the engine that correspond to these two holes.

Plugged water pump is where the temperature sending unit probe is installed.

One hole that is at the rear of the engine is for the oil pressure sending unit. The other would be for an (optional) oil filter line.

Number stamped on the bell housing. No such thing. I assume you are referring to the number stamped atop the transmission case. That will not help you determine what engine you have there. It will only help you determine what year that transmission was originally installed. Does that number match the frame number?

transbytip · 03-09-2022, 10:47 AM

Kube is correct on all points.If you want the correct intake I have one.e-mail [email protected] or P.M.me Cliff.

art ebeling · 03-09-2022, 11:24 AM

Thanks for that information. What vacuum lines go in 1&2? Yes the number on the top of the transmission case and frame match. Does that tell me if it is babbit or insert bearings? Art

art ebeling · 03-09-2022, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by transbytip

Kube is correct on all points.If you want the correct intake I have one.e-mail [email protected] or P.M.me Cliff.

I sent you an email. What intake do I have? Art

Terry,OH · 03-09-2022, 12:00 PM

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#1 is for the vacuum brake on the distributor. #2 is for the vacuum wiper motor. Appears to be 37-40 cast iron intake. The 36 intake is aluminum. The passenger side water pump should not have the temperature probe port. Only the drivers side should have one. Someone installed a LH pump on the RH side.

tubman · 03-09-2022, 12:05 PM

I believe the O/P has a truck. Does that make a difference in the intake manifold material?

art ebeling · 03-09-2022, 12:18 PM

Other than for originality does the intake manifold matter? Art

deuce lover · 03-09-2022, 12:24 PM

No.The cast iron one was generally used in commercial applications.Are they any letter stampings (LB)on the front deck of the block between the intake and the head?
Here is a '36 style aluminum intake.

Kube · 03-09-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by art ebeling

Thanks for that information. What vacuum lines go in 1&2? Yes the number on the top of the transmission case and frame match. Does that tell me if it is babbit or insert bearings? Art

Art, All that we can tell from the numbers matching is that is the transmission the car was built with back in '36.
Who knows if the engine has been swapped?? It would be unusual if it hadn't.

art ebeling · 03-10-2022, 08:59 AM

Is it correct that the 36 pickup would have the cast iron intake? Art

Kube · 03-10-2022, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by art ebeling

Is it correct that the 36 pickup would have the cast iron intake? Art

I don't believe so. At least not from the factory. Cast iron intake manifolds came in to being in 1939. They were "mixed" upon the assembly line with aluminum.
Nor should a '36 engine have cast iron cylinder heads.

DavidG · 03-10-2022, 10:34 AM

The engine number (or VIN) is independent of the type of main bearings the engine had when it was originally produced. In other words, the engines were numbered sequentially without regard to which type of bearing they had.

bbrocksr · 03-10-2022, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by art ebeling

What are these empty holes in my 1936 intake used for? Also the holes in both waterpumps and the two on the bellhousing. The number stamped on the bellhousing is 18 2761299, is it a babbit or insert block? Thanks, Art

The two on the bell housing are for oil pressure gauge/sender.

Bill

deuce lover · 03-11-2022, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bbrocksr

The two on the bell housing are for oil pressure gauge/sender.

Bill

It was covered in post #2

03-09-2022, 12:00 PM	#6
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) #1 is for the vacuum brake on the distributor. #2 is for the vacuum wiper motor. Appears to be 37-40 cast iron intake. The 36 intake is aluminum. The passenger side water pump should not have the temperature probe port. Only the drivers side should have one. Someone installed a LH pump on the RH side.

03-09-2022, 12:05 PM	#7
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,320	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID I believe the O/P has a truck. Does that make a difference in the intake manifold material?

03-09-2022, 12:18 PM	#8
art ebeling Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hillsboro IL Posts: 479	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID Other than for originality does the intake manifold matter? Art

03-09-2022, 12:24 PM	#9
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,307	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID No.The cast iron one was generally used in commercial applications.Are they any letter stampings (LB)on the front deck of the block between the intake and the head? Here is a '36 style aluminum intake. Last edited by deuce lover; 03-09-2022 at 12:34 PM.

03-10-2022, 08:59 AM	#11
art ebeling Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hillsboro IL Posts: 479	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID Is it correct that the 36 pickup would have the cast iron intake? Art

03-09-2022, 10:33 AM	#2
Kube Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 9,007	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID Intake: It's not the correct intake for a '36. #1 and #2 are for vacuum lines. #3 and #4 are locating holes - there are dowels in the engine that correspond to these two holes. Plugged water pump is where the temperature sending unit probe is installed. One hole that is at the rear of the engine is for the oil pressure sending unit. The other would be for an (optional) oil filter line. Number stamped on the bell housing. No such thing. I assume you are referring to the number stamped atop the transmission case. That will not help you determine what engine you have there. It will only help you determine what year that transmission was originally installed. Does that number match the frame number? __________________ "I can explain it for you. However, I can't understand it for you".

03-09-2022, 10:47 AM	#3
transbytip Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: ottumwa Ia. Posts: 132	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID Kube is correct on all points.If you want the correct intake I have one.e-mail [email protected] or P.M.me Cliff.

03-09-2022, 11:24 AM	#4
art ebeling Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hillsboro IL Posts: 479	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID Thanks for that information. What vacuum lines go in 1&2? Yes the number on the top of the transmission case and frame match. Does that tell me if it is babbit or insert bearings? Art

03-10-2022, 10:34 AM	#13
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,102	Re: 1936 Intake holes ID The engine number (or VIN) is independent of the type of main bearings the engine had when it was originally produced. In other words, the engines were numbered sequentially without regard to which type of bearing they had.