Woven Linings and Cast Iron Drums

[Smitty]

Woven Linings and Cast Iron Drums - Anyone running this combination? I get wicked chatter with woven linings and had to switch back to bonded linings.
I feel woven linings stopped the car better though.

Steve

[Modelakid31]

Brent, are you saying that the shoes will squeak when using cast iron drums? All the time?

[J Franklin]

I am running this type of set-up and have not had a problem My linings have 8 rivets if I remember right.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Woven Linings and Cast Iron Drums - Anyone running this combination? I get wicked chatter with woven linings and had to switch back to bonded linings.
I feel woven linings stopped the car better though.

Steve

Steve,
Presently, I'm running Cast Iron drums of the front with woven lining. I'm running the original steel drums on the rear with woven linings. Glad to report that it stops real well with no chatter !

[Art Bjornestad]

I am also running woven linings with cast front drums.

I made the mistake of going to hydraulic brakes.......if anyone is reading this and thinking about changing to wet brakes, DON'T!

[rtruax]

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i used woven linings and cast drums for some time. I had very loud brake squeal. I removed the drums and sanded the glaze off the pads. It cured the problem.

[CWPASADENA]

Originally Posted by J Franklin

I am running this type of set-up and have not had a problem My linings have 8 rivets if I remember right.

I too am running this same combination with EXCELLENT results. Very satisfied. I really like the softer linings. They stop great. No chatter or noise.

I did take a thin very fine cut on the drums to true them after I installed them on the hubs. I also have eight rivets on each shoe.

My experience, Chris

[Gravelroad]

From what I read, most have good braking using this combo. This leads me to believe that Smitty has a problem other than the combination of drum and lining.

Smitty, have you had the drums on a brake drum lathe and checked for concentricity and bell mouth conditions? Also check the drums with a drum micrometer to see how far oversize they may be. Drums that are oversize and shoes that are not arced to fit that oversize, can be coming into contact with the drum only in the middle of the shoe which will create more heat and have a reduced contact area giving less braking. In this case they would have to wear themselves into full contact. Check your lineing for tighness to the shoe. The rivets may not be "set" properly and may be allowing the lining to move slightly on the shoe. I have seen more rivets added to shoes by guys that have the older brake equipment. They drill a hole through the lining and shoe, countersink the lining the prescibed amount, install the rivet and set it. From what I have read above, I would say, don't give up on this combination or write it off as unworkable. Keep us posted as to your findings if you persue.

[Bob-A]

I've been told that the chatter or noise from the brakes. Is caused by the vibration of any and all items within the brake assembly that are unnecessarily loose when you apply the brakes. GUNK makes a product
called "Squeal Medic" for brake noise. I bought some from Pep-Boys and it worked for a while. Best thing is to make sure everything within your
brake system is tight and up to specs.

AMF/Bob-A

[Joe Young]

I've had good results with Hard Bonded Woven Linings on my new cast iron drums. The source I used for the linings is below. You can ship 8 shoes in a USPS flat rate box. They will remove the old linings, clean and install the woven bonded lining. Cost for 8 shoes is $116 plus shipping. I have no connection to this company,but would like to share this information.
Joe Young, Slapout,AL


Automotive Friction Material Co.
1512 7th Avenue North
Birmingham, AL
35203
(800) 874-4489
Attn: Chris Creel

[jerry shook]

Question for art bjornestad. Would you tell me why you dont like the juice brakes. Thats all we have had on autos sence the late 1930,s.

[1931 flamingo]

Ditto to what jerry asked.
Paul in CT

[allen]

Originally Posted by jerry shook

Question for art bjornestad. Would you tell me why you don't like the juice brakes. Thats all we have had on autos sence the late 1930,s.

Don't want to speak for art but think i understand what he is saying the trouble you go Thur for juice brakes vs a good set via flathead Ted system is not worth it, my Manuel brake will out slid any of my newer (1951 or newer cars) once again do not want to step on arts word AL

[dumb person]

Mechanical brakes have "the safety of steel from heel to wheel" or something like that, i read it on here.

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by dumb person

Mechanical brakes have "the safety of steel from heel to wheel" or something like that, i read it on here.

Exactly! Even if the car sets for 20 years you are going to have the same good brake pedal. Slim chance of any juice brakes working after a long time setting.

[Joe Young]

In addition to my post #10 above. After a light clean up cut on my new cast drums, these shoes fit the drums perfectly without having them arced. The only thing I did was bevel the ends of the shoes with a file.
This might save money by eliminating this procedure and trying to find an arcing machine in your area. I have excellent brakes. Joe Young