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California Charlie · 05-21-2017, 05:05 PM

I'm working on my front axle/king pin assembly and I'm having a problem getting the Felt Washer and Cup to fit in-between the spindle and lower front axle. There is small space for these to fit in, but it's very tight and wondering if there is a certain way this is done with perhaps temporarily collapsing the Felt Washer someway, or some other trick that you with this experience have. Thanks for all those who may chime in to provide me some help with this matter.

lindy williams · 05-21-2017, 05:16 PM

Many of those cups are too tall and will not fit. Bratton's is selling one that he claims is correct and will fit. $.65 each.

California Charlie · 05-21-2017, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lindy williams

Many of those cups are too tall and will not fit. Bratton's is selling one that he claims is correct and will fit. $.65 each.

Thanks, That gives me an idea that I may check the condition of the ones I removed.

1955cj5 · 05-21-2017, 05:43 PM

I reused the old cup with the new felt.

Even then there was a trick...

Hold the felt and cup washer against the bottom of the axle with one hand.

Tilt the spindle towards you...outward, so the bottom just contacts the cup washer, then roll/tilt the spindle so the top slides over the axle...

Wish I had taken pictures!

JBill · 05-21-2017, 05:50 PM

Geez. I didn't have any trouble, which of course makes me think I must have done it wrong!!!

California Charlie · 05-21-2017, 06:17 PM

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Found a fix-This worked for me:

-I glued the Felt to the Cup
-I greased the Felt
-I clamped the Cup and Felt in-between two pieces of wood to compress the Felt. I left the pieced clamped together for a little while.
-I removed the clamped components and was then able to inset the Cup and compressed Felt in-between the spindle and lower front axle.
-I then tapered the bottom of an old King Pin and inserted it into the bottom of the axle to line up the Cup and Felt.
-I drove my new King Pin into the top of the axle knocking out the old King Pin keeping the Cup and Felt alignment in place.
-Now ready to do the other side. Happy Camper!

BILL WILLIAMSON · 05-21-2017, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by California Charlie

Thanks, That gives me an idea that I may check the condition of the ones I removed.

Brother Californian,
The Moral of the story: "DON'T EVER THROW AWAY OLD ORIGINAL PARTS"
Bill Junkie

Rb63 · 08-21-2017, 10:24 PM

Hey guys, I have the same issue, order parts.....waiting.
Thx

Norm M · 08-22-2017, 07:17 AM

I installed a new spindle in my Tudor (the old spindle nut threads were stripped). I employed a similar solution by using a deep socket which had an O.D. about the size of the spindle I.D. and inserted it from the bottom. Then I stacked the felt washer and cup, the the spindle; after pushing the spindle into place which is indicated when the socket can be slid through to the top spindle bushing, I then simply slid the kingpin in from the top. Worked like I knew what I was doing.

100IH · 08-22-2017, 08:59 AM

Several times I have had to grind the edges down to fit so the edge has enough clearance, Don' want it contacting. Thinner sheet metal would have been batter.

Fullraceflathead · 08-22-2017, 10:39 AM

Mine were a little pain in the azz but a few "Choice Words" helped me a lot!!!

05-21-2017, 05:05 PM	#1
California Charlie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 157	Sunday project-front spindle question I'm working on my front axle/king pin assembly and I'm having a problem getting the Felt Washer and Cup to fit in-between the spindle and lower front axle. There is small space for these to fit in, but it's very tight and wondering if there is a certain way this is done with perhaps temporarily collapsing the Felt Washer someway, or some other trick that you with this experience have. Thanks for all those who may chime in to provide me some help with this matter.

05-21-2017, 05:16 PM	#2
lindy williams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 335	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question Many of those cups are too tall and will not fit. Bratton's is selling one that he claims is correct and will fit. $.65 each.

05-21-2017, 05:43 PM	#4
1955cj5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,578	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question I reused the old cup with the new felt. Even then there was a trick... Hold the felt and cup washer against the bottom of the axle with one hand. Tilt the spindle towards you...outward, so the bottom just contacts the cup washer, then roll/tilt the spindle so the top slides over the axle... Wish I had taken pictures! __________________ Early '29 CCPU that had a 4-speed, but not any more.......in the family since '62

05-21-2017, 05:50 PM	#5
JBill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 702	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question Geez. I didn't have any trouble, which of course makes me think I must have done it wrong!!!

05-21-2017, 06:17 PM	#6
California Charlie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 157	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question-FOUND A FIX Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Found a fix-This worked for me: -I glued the Felt to the Cup -I greased the Felt -I clamped the Cup and Felt in-between two pieces of wood to compress the Felt. I left the pieced clamped together for a little while. -I removed the clamped components and was then able to inset the Cup and compressed Felt in-between the spindle and lower front axle. -I then tapered the bottom of an old King Pin and inserted it into the bottom of the axle to line up the Cup and Felt. -I drove my new King Pin into the top of the axle knocking out the old King Pin keeping the Cup and Felt alignment in place. -Now ready to do the other side. Happy Camper!

08-21-2017, 10:24 PM	#8
Rb63 Junior Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Centeral Calif. Posts: 10	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question Hey guys, I have the same issue, order parts.....waiting. Thx

08-22-2017, 07:17 AM	#9
Norm M Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 28	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question I installed a new spindle in my Tudor (the old spindle nut threads were stripped). I employed a similar solution by using a deep socket which had an O.D. about the size of the spindle I.D. and inserted it from the bottom. Then I stacked the felt washer and cup, the the spindle; after pushing the spindle into place which is indicated when the socket can be slid through to the top spindle bushing, I then simply slid the kingpin in from the top. Worked like I knew what I was doing.

08-22-2017, 08:59 AM	#10
100IH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 970	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question Several times I have had to grind the edges down to fit so the edge has enough clearance, Don' want it contacting. Thinner sheet metal would have been batter.

08-22-2017, 10:39 AM	#11
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,175	Re: Sunday project-front spindle question Mine were a little pain in the azz but a few "Choice Words" helped me a lot!!! __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask