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Old 08-30-2021, 03:37 PM   #1
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My 38 has the wide 5 wheels. 5 on 10 1/2.
Does anybody know a way to balance these ?
Went to Discount Tire and they say no.
My local guys say these old units don't need it, but mine seems to feel as tho it wants a balance job.
I there an adapter available to go down to a small center hole?
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:06 PM   #2
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These old wheels probably require a balance more than modern wheels. There are adapters available. Speedway used to sell one but am not certain if they still do.
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:07 PM   #3
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At our shop we use a wide circle drum and hub to mount the wheels to fit our balancer. If you don't have any, one of the front drums will work depending on the type of equipment used.
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:13 PM   #4
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Yes you can balance the wheels. You have a few options.

You can run Dynabeads in your tires.
http://dynabeads.samsauto-online.com/

You can use a wheel adapter that will fit on the tire balancer.
https://www.a1racing.com/A1_Racing_P..._Adapters.aspx

Or if you can find a place that works on Old Volkswagens, they used wide Five Wheels.

Hope this helps.




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Old 08-30-2021, 04:21 PM   #5
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Gayle, your local guy is an idiot. An out of balance tire will bounce your eyeballs out at highway speed. He must think old cars are only for parades.


There are several ways to balance a wide five. The simplest and best way these days is an adapter from Speedway Motors. Of several available, this one is cheapest and has the studs you need. Importantly, the adapter must be balanced alone prior to balancing your wheel.



https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Wide-...ern,29220.html
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Gayle, your local guy is an idiot. An out of balance tire will bounce your eyeballs out at highway speed. He must think old cars are only for parades.


There are several ways to balance a wide five. The simplest and best way these days is an adapter from Speedway Motors. Of several available, this one is cheapest and has the studs you need. Importantly, the adapter must be balanced alone prior to balancing your wheel.



https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Wide-...ern,29220.html
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Yes you can balance the wheels. You have a few options.

You can run Dynabeads in your tires.
http://dynabeads.samsauto-online.com/

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Got to give a thumbs up for 'Dynabeads'.
They took care of a balance issue that I had even after machine balancing.
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Old 08-30-2021, 04:57 PM   #8
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These adaptors from Speedway work very well for balancing wide five wheels.
Had no issue getting mine balanced on the 36 with one I purchased just for that.


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Old 08-30-2021, 05:29 PM   #9
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These adaptors from Speedway work very well for balancing wide five wheels.
Had no issue getting mine balanced on the 36 with one I purchased just for that.


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Endorse the Speedway adaptor. Had one sent down under, cost very good even with shipping.Pleased with unit
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Old 08-30-2021, 06:23 PM   #10
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Use dynabeads
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Old 08-30-2021, 07:17 PM   #11
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Could you use it with out of balanced drums ?
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Old 08-30-2021, 07:29 PM   #12
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X 3, or was it 4? regarding the Speedway adapter. Worked great with the wide fives on my 39 Merc.
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Old 08-30-2021, 07:38 PM   #13
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[QUOTE=Bursonaw;2051329]Yes you can balance the wheels. You have a few options.

You can run Dynabeads in your tires.
http://dynabeads.samsauto-online.com/

You can use a wheel adapter that will fit on the tire balancer.
https://www.a1racing.com/A1_Racing_P..._Adapters.aspx

Or if you can find a place that works on Old Volkswagens, they used wide Five Wheels.

Hope this helps.
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The Old VW wide five wheels have about an 8" bolt circle, and
the Old Ford wide 5 wheels have a 10 1/4" bolt circle...






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Old 08-30-2021, 07:40 PM   #14
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Could you use it with out of balanced drums ?
Any drum used for balancing must itself be balanced separately unless it will actually be the drum on the car for that wheel, clocked to the same lugs.

If you want to balance a wide 5 drum, use an adapter that has no lugs installed as this one has.
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I should imagine that dynabeads will counteract the imbalance within the entire rotating assembly, ie brakedrums, rims and tires. All I know is they work very well.
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Old 08-30-2021, 08:51 PM   #16
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Note; the racing adapters usually have 5/8" studs and wheel fitment can be a bit tight. also those studs can be cut threads Vs rolled threads- check lug nut fit. I use them myself tho. Newc
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Old 08-30-2021, 08:55 PM   #17
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Dyna beads. I have found that if I can control my trigger finger, I can get the air hammer to just barely vibrate and it helps when pouring them in so they dont clog up your funnel.
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Old 08-30-2021, 09:40 PM   #18
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Default Re: wheel balance

Although I have never used them and am just constitutionally opposed to "miracle cures", I'm starting to think that "Dyna-Beads" may be the answer.

"Lanny" has a lot of credibility with me, and if he says they work, trust me, believe him.
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Old 08-30-2021, 10:03 PM   #19
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Actually Denny, in my post above, the top part of it, is Bursonaw,s QUOTE, and
the bottom comment of mine is just to correct Bursonaw's statement, that VW,s
used a wide five wheel like the early Ford wide five, and I just tell him that VW's
wide five bolt circle measurement is different than Fords.

As far as Dyna Beads go, I have never used them, might have try them in the
future, just to find out for myself if they do work or not.

Thanks for the complement though Denny.




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Old 08-30-2021, 10:11 PM   #20
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I guess I read it how I wanted to hear it.

Just the fact that you are not against them is good enough for me.
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