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Old 10-30-2020, 09:04 AM   #1
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Wanted to give folks a heads up, Snyder's is out of stock on the laminated timing gear and also the SS water pipe they source from Aries; stock is expected back in "8-12 weeks."

Also had two vendors report out of stock on the copper water outlet gasket (I know, just use RTV).

If you've had any other unexpected out-of-stock reports, post it here.
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Old 10-30-2020, 10:46 AM   #2
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My bank account is "out of stock"
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My bank account is "out of stock"
Same here and getting re-stocked is iffy.
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:13 AM   #4
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Interiors - Car Touch and Classtique - exceptionally long lead times


Berts Carbs - Can be months lead time dependent on demand, when ordering make sure to ask 1st
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Old 10-30-2020, 01:30 PM   #5
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The 28 29 instrument panel light.
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Old 10-30-2020, 01:39 PM   #6
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Quick reminder that if you're looking for a common part, such as an instrument panel light, take a moment to search the Swap Meet section and/or post in the Wanted forum. Since I posted above, someone kindly directed me to a timing gear for sale. Help a member out!
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Quick reminder that if you're looking for a common part, such as an instrument panel light, take a moment to search the Swap Meet section and/or post in the Wanted forum. Since I posted above, someone kindly directed me to a timing gear for sale. Help a member out!
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:30 PM   #8
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I know Bratton's has the laminated timing gears on the shelf.
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:38 PM   #9
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Mike's also had them in stock. Most of these items will be in-stock somewhere, but I've placed several orders in the last week and for each one I got a call back from the vendor saying X or Y item was out of stock and wouldn't be in for a while – so then I had to hunt around, put another order together, etc. Not saying it's a crisis, just saying it's a good idea these days to call ahead and make sure key items are in stock before you build an order.
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:40 PM   #10
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Many of the formerly available resto parts are going by the wayside
The economic production quantities versus demand and those that can/will produce is waning greatly. Also individual craftsmen are aging and retiring
If you need it and it’s a good part buy it now...or buy 2!
It may not be around in 2 years
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:52 PM   #11
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That would be another fun thread: "great repro parts you can't buy anymore." No fair listing parts that have never been available as quality reproductions – has to be something that you used to be able to buy.

Examples I can think of: good transmission bearings. Those clear distributor caps (though I heard they weren't very durable). All the stuff Howell's used to sell.
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Old 10-30-2020, 04:17 PM   #12
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Another aspect to this thread is "Parts that were never available but should have been" Where to begin!? For our RHD cars, there is a multitude of parts that have never been available from the vendors, especially the big ones. I'll try to list a few. Clutch and brake pedals, the shaft on which they mount and bushes for them, the accelerator pedal and linkages, inlet manifold, the bell crank and rods to work the distributor timing, ready to go wiring looms, bell housings, steering arms, pitman arms, drag link, brake cross shaft, steering column support bracket, the bracket that bolts to the back of the block for the starter button to starter motor linkage to start with. Also sometimes not available, worm and sector for either 7 tooth or 2 tooth steering boxes.
There will be others I have missed. We have to improvise, modify, repair and recycle old, 90+ year old parts you guys would throw out without a thought.
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Old 10-30-2020, 04:28 PM   #13
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Hey get your own thread.
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Old 10-30-2020, 06:16 PM   #14
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one of the lessons to be learned is check with more than one supplier!
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Old 10-30-2020, 09:45 PM   #15
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As a supplier, I can tell you many items not available, but not for the reasons some of you think. Mostly- too much demand. The pandemic sent so many people home working on their cars rather then doing other things .Secondly, many of the machine shops both in the USA and abroad were closed for weeks due to pandemic, but we were still buying parts, so now they are way behind making parts. Thirdly, several manufacturers of Model A parts either died, got sick, or closed up and retired. Demand is there for the parts, but Making them is the hard part.

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As a supplier, I can tell you many items not available, but not for the reasons some of you think. Mostly- too much demand. The pandemic sent so many people home working on their cars rather then doing other things .Secondly, many of the machine shops both in the USA and abroad were closed for weeks due to pandemic, but we were still buying parts, so now they are way behind making parts. Thirdly, several manufacturers of Model A parts either died, got sick, or closed up and retired. Demand is there for the parts, but Making them is the hard part.

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Would that be because the skills required are not being taught these days?
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:21 PM   #17
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Would that be because the skills required are not being taught these days?
No. This issue is across the board, and international. Just as the pandemic is. Itís hitting lumber, appliances, computers and nearly every industry. Some are more demand than supplies, others are individual and small suppliers being hit by shutdowns and quarantine. If the relatively small supplier that makes dishwasher pumps for GE dishwashers has an outbreak and shuts down for two weeks, that ripples through the GE dishwasher manufacturing and supply chain.

Same with car parts. Metal suppliers, foundries, machinists, platers, retailers.... each one of those has their own needs and supply chains! Platers need their chemicals, etc.
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:57 PM   #18
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If you aren't manufacturing things, you have no idea how difficult it is to get what you need to do the job, and how unavailable qualified people are to help with the never-ending demand. People have been conditioned to expect what they want in increasingly ridiculous and shorter amounts of time all the while oblivious to what goes in to getting what they want made. There are many reasons, as some have pointed out, for supply chain woes. Once weeks, and even months, of delays are forced upon us it is impossible to make up that time. Yet, the orders never slow. During this Covid thing I actually got busier than I could stand, as have others I know. Still, people act as though manufacturers should be able to cater to their timelines. Manufacturing is a different world than the world in which most people live.



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Old 10-31-2020, 05:53 AM   #19
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so it appears there is plenty of opportunity now to bring manufacturing back home...........


demand is there, albeit maybe not the funds to start a new enterprise..........
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The problem has never been with demand. What drives manufacturing is capability and cost, with an emphasis on the latter. If a company can pay 20% of what it would pay for labor in another country vs. the U.S., guess where it is going to manufacture? That's an oversimplification, but the bottom line.
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