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Old 12-12-2014, 05:36 AM   #21
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Just for the comparison, here are the pictures of the 1939 and 1940 Ford Convertibles from the same Sale Brochure. You will notice that the Roof is completely different to the Roadsters.
Hi Mercman, where can I get a copy of that brochure? with the Sloper on it.?
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:48 AM   #22
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At the moment, all I have on the 1940 Australian Fords is a Scanned copy of the original Sales Brochures on my Computer that was sent to me by a friend. As you can appreciate, these old Brochure on Australian Early Ford v8's are very hard to come by, however, with the help of friends, we are trying to build up a Library of these old brochures with the idea of making them available to enthusiasts. To date, we have managed to track down and Scan quite a lot of these early Brochures, but are still looking for more to fill in the gaps in the collection. At this stage, the 1940 Ford Brochure is not up there, as we are waiting for a better copy to Scan. However, there are lots of other models like the 1937, 1938 and 1939 that have already been posted. These Brochures are then posted to the Old Car Manual Website that is based in Canada. Each brochure has been faithfully copied and is available for all to see. You can check out what is listed by country. Naturally, the USA leads the way with the number of brochures downloaded in the thousands. Then there is Canada and Australia and the cars that were unique to these countries. As Australia has such a small population, the number of new car brochures printed is much less than the other countries, therefore, they are much harder to come by. If anybody reading this Post has a Brochure that is not listed, I am sure that they Web Master would love for you to Scan it and send it in. In the meantime, check out the following Link. You will be amazed at how many interesting, rare brochures are listed there for all to share.
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Old 12-12-2014, 06:58 AM   #23
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This is what the Web Site for The Old Car Manual looks like. Click onto the country that you are looking for an take it from there. Remember, the Link for this great site is:- http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/
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Old 12-12-2014, 07:02 AM   #24
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Someone was asking for pictures of the Australian 1939 and 1940 Ford Slopers.
Here they are, the Standard and Deluxe for both years, 1939 and 1940. Enjoy.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:01 PM   #25
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At A$22,000 this car is way overpriced for the condition that it is in, so as expected, it did not sell & has been relisted for the same price.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:49 PM   #26
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Very interesting. Drive one of these into the LARS and be rejected as I think they claim Ford never made a roadster after 36. I think I remember they rejecting one of the rare mystical U.S. 37 roadsters but I could be wrong.
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:05 PM   #27
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Very interesting. Drive one of these into the LARS and be rejected as I think they claim Ford never made a roadster after 36. I think I remember they rejecting one of the rare mystical U.S. 37 roadsters but I could be wrong.
In their infinite wisdom the LA Roadsters deem any car with a windshield as a part of the cowl and not bolted on to be something other than a roadster. Never made sense to me; so what if the windshield was fixed, there are no roll up windows.

Ford kind of hedged their bets too BITD. In '37 Cabriolet was a fashionable name for a classy car. 1938 comes along and now the soft top became the Convertible Coupe.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:48 PM   #28
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Fordors mentioned that the LA Roadsters Club didn't recognise any Roadster that had fixed Windscreen Posts. In Australia, check out these Australian Chevrolet Roadsters from 1936, 37, 38 & 39. While the later models had Quarter Windows in the Doors, they did not have windup windows & were classified as Roadsters. I know that this Forum is for Fords Products, but just couldn't help adding these pictures from the oppositions lineup. They don't come anywhere near the Fords in the Looks & Performance departments.
As for me, I will stick to my old Fords. Please don't shoot me for posting these pictures from the opposition!
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:15 AM   #29
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Hi,wipers for the '38Std. are supposed to be in the cowl ,same as in US cars.



...this is a local '38 Std.Roadster Utility ,same cowl,different back section and shorter doors. As Trevor said, parts are unique to this model and are very hard to find....

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Old 12-17-2014, 01:29 AM   #30
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Then you also had the 37 Roadster Utility, I thought Ford Australia did a 38 as well but have not seen one.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:59 AM   #31
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Hi,wipers for the '38Std. are supposed to be in the cowl ,same as in US cars. ...this is a local '38 Std.Roadster Utility ,same cowl,different back section and shorter doors. As Trevor said, parts are unique to this model and are very hard to find....
Old Col, is it possible that your restoration utilizes a U.S. DeLuxe cowl? I ask because Mercman states that the brochure shows no wipers at all on the Standard Roadster. ...Then again, cowl wipers could be unique to the Roadster Ute?
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:32 AM   #32
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Hi Alan, no,they're all the same. The brochures are artists renderings, not always absolutely accurate and tend towards making the cars look disproportionate. The Roadster that's here on Ebay has likely had aftermarket electric motors installed above the screen , possibly done when there were no replacement originals available ( like now)

PS,sorry about the giant pics.....what am I doing wrong there?
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Old 12-17-2014, 05:38 AM   #33
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Blacknred asked about the Australian 1938 Ford Roadster Utilities. Both the Coupe Utes & Roadster Utes were only made as Standard models in 1938 & are very rare indeed. A lucky restorer bought this 1938 Ford Roadster Ute body at a recent Swap Meet. Notice the hole for the Cowl Mounted Wipers. By the way, Ford Australia offered the Coupe Utes in both Standard & Deluxe models for 1939 & 1940 only. All other years they were only offered as Standard models.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:01 AM   #34
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Hi Alan, no,they're all the same. The brochures are artists renderings, not always absolutely accurate and tend towards making the cars look disproportionate. The Roadster that's here on Ebay has likely had aftermarket electric motors installed above the screen , possibly done when there were no replacement originals available ( like now)

PS,sorry about the giant pics.....what am I doing wrong there?
X2 on the brochures, I'm with ya there. On the giant pics, I think they're great! How'd you do that?
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:08 AM   #35
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Attached are pictures of the pair of Ford Utes that Ford Australia produced for 1938. They show the very rare Roadster Ute and the more common Coupe Ute.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:43 AM   #36
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I sure would like to see some current photos of some U.S. '38 Standards.
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Old 12-17-2014, 09:09 AM   #37
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At this point in time ANY Ute is very unusual/rare and equally very hard to get parts for. As in our 1935, we have been collecting parts sine the late 80's and still have gotten everything we need. Thanks to Trevor for most of everything we needed but still cannot find right hand drive engine splash tins!!!!! Any help Old Col or Oz Man would greatly be appreciated.
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Old 12-21-2014, 04:39 PM   #38
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BLACKANDRED mentioned the 1937 Ford Roadster Utes. This is another example of a very rare old Ford from Ford Australia. Here are some pictures of a survivor that I found on the Internet. I have only ever seen one of these 1937 Ford Roadster Utes in the flesh & that would be over 30 years ago. Whether it is a Roadster or a Roadster Ute, they are very thin on the ground & not many have survived the passing of time.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:22 PM   #39
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G'Day Rockfla,
RHD '35 splash pans are thin on the ground over here.I had to swap a SBC to get a set . The poor sole, it was my gain, and his loss. Our English and South Africian friends may be of help. On reading your profile reminded me about the firewall tool box that we spoke about do you still want one ?
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It'd be happy to get a sbc in trade if you find another set. I'll message you about the tool box.
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