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12-17-2016, 09:09 PM | #21 |
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Re: Ford Glass Bugs:
Here is a 1940 Ford coming down the line.
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12-17-2016, 09:12 PM | #22 |
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O.K one more time. These air the facts. My car is a 1941 Ford Station, no doubt about it. The chassis and firewall numbers both indicate that it is a '46, July built car. The '46 Ford Wagon has 14 pieces of glass. EVERY piece of my original glass has a "BUG" with the date code September of '46. It's very possible that Station Wagons are different. JEssery, it is very possible. Ford Station Wagon bodies were built in Iron Mountain, Michigan. They received the cowl and floor from a stamping facility and basically hand built. When they left Iron Mountain they were in primer and loaded into box cars and shipped to various assembly plants, some as far as California. Who knows how long it took?
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12-17-2016, 09:16 PM | #23 | |
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Well, that sounds very plausible. |
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12-17-2016, 09:43 PM | #24 |
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Sounds to me like someone thinks engine build dates are the same as vehicle build dates, which is interesting as that likely only occurred once in the entire early Ford V8 era. That was at the start of '32 model production when there was only one assembly plant in operation, there was no inventory of completed V-8 engines, and when an engine was released for production at the next-door engine plant it immediately went into a vehicle chassis in the next-door assembly plant. That went on for about two weeks before engine production began to exceed the vehicle output of the assembly plant and an inventory of engines began to be accumulated so that they could be shipped to the other assembly plants which were then able to commence vehicle production. The last assembly plant to launch production was Long Beach, CA, nearly two months after Job #1 at Dearborn in early March, 1932 and six weeks after the public introduction day of the '32 models (when only one out of three dealers had an actual vehicle to display; the other two had only posters).
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12-17-2016, 09:49 PM | #25 | |
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My steel wheels are also dated December: the four wheels are all dated December 29, 1936 and the spare is dated December 24, 1936. |
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12-19-2016, 06:50 PM | #26 |
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As for a car having low mileage and glass that dates AFTER the car was produced, likely the car had a broken piece of glass early in it's life and was replaced at a dealer. There again, the replacement glass would have a bug showing the date it (the glass) was produced. It is typically unlikely for all the glass to show the same date as the build date month. In addition Ford did not produce all the glass themselves so glass from other manufactures had to be shipped in. As for placement, if you email me at [email protected] I can forward you a synopsis of placement for 1932-48's . You must remember that cars with a "split" windshield and door side glass, used the Same Part# left and right. So for example in most cases the bug would read and be placed on the outside of the RH door glass but the inside of the LH door glass. |
12-19-2016, 08:17 PM | #27 |
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In woodiewagon46 case, the chassis# and transmission # indicate when that part of the car was assembled. The chassis was then shipped off to Iron Mountain for the assembly of the body. It's entirely possible the wait time for the body could have been 8 weeks as demand for new cars was at an all time high after the war. Woodies were time consuming to build ,so woodiewagon's car had to just take it's place in line at the back of previous orders. Having glass dated after the chassis was built would definitely be possible due to the backup of orders for cars. The glass was dated at the time it was made and the glass manufacturing process was designed to keep a constant supply at the assembly plants. Trying to pin down what happened after the war is difficult as the plants were just going back to making cars instead of planes and tanks. As with all things Ford we should not use the words "always" or "never".
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12-20-2016, 10:41 AM | #28 |
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TJ, everything you mention is correct except for one thing. The body was built in Ford's Iron Michigan plant but then the body was shipped by rail car to various assembly plants. Ford did not have an assembly line in Iron Mountain, just a Station Wagon and Sportsman body line. The body was shipped in primer and painted to a customers order at it's destination. On page 169 in the book Famous Ford Woodies by Lorin Sorensen is a great picture of Station Wagon bodies being loaded into box cars. On the side of one box car is a marking showing the bodies are headed for the Louisville KY assembly plant.
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12-20-2016, 03:58 PM | #29 | |
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12-20-2016, 04:22 PM | #30 |
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Hi Everyone. Nobody has mentioned that 'first-in-first-out' inventory was not practiced in the way most of us would assume when compared to manufacturing of our recent lives. Sometimes the first-in would be the last-out, as I understand.
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12-20-2016, 04:55 PM | #31 |
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I believe it makes sense for a woody body to be shipped w/o the glass installed, then installed later at the assembly plant...........Bob L
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12-20-2016, 05:54 PM | #32 |
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V8, all I can tell you is what is on my car and what's in the book Famous Ford Woodies by Lorin Sorensen. You are confusing body build date with body "drop" date. Of course Ford did not have chassis' just sitting around waiting for the body. AGAIN, after the body was built in Iron Mountain Michigan it was shipped by rail car to various assembly plants across the country. It was then painted the color of the customers choice and THEN put on the assembly line with along with coupes and sedans where it was mated to its chassis and assigned a number. It did not matter if it was assembled in California or Kentucky.
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12-20-2016, 07:19 PM | #33 |
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My 33 5w has 5 - 33 on one door , both quarter and the rear windows . Windshield must have been replaced early on as it is 7 - 34 . The other door glass was replaced by me and the broken one was 5 - 33 also . May car .
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12-20-2016, 10:44 PM | #34 |
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David J don't take this as insulting, only a question.... How do you know it to be a May built car?
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12-20-2016, 11:10 PM | #35 |
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