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Old 04-08-2014, 09:09 AM   #1
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Is there a difference between steering columns for a 29 Tudor sedan and a 29 pickup?
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:16 AM   #2
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They could be different as both the 7-tooth and the 2-tooth were used beginning in Feb. of 29.
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They are interchangeable though.

Well, except for the steering wheel. The two tooth has a key setup, and the 7 tooth a tapered spline. Each has to be mated to their respective steering wheels.

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Old 04-08-2014, 09:24 AM   #4
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There is a difference in steering tube length between some models (the one on my 29 roadster is a little bit shorter), but I don't know if the tudor and the pickup are involved in this. I'm not sure what standard length really is.
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My 7 tooth box in my Tudor needs to be rebuilt. I won't be home for a week or so to measure its length and I have a chance to pick one up from a 29 pickup it looks like a 2 tooth box in the pictures. The price seems fair at $25, but I haven't checked it out in person yet.
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Does anybody have a length for the Tudor column from the gear box to the wheel?
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:40 AM   #7
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The 1928-29 steering columns resolve themselves into the two types: either 7 tooth with the A-3616-B light switch rod, or the 2 tooth with the A-3616-C light switch rod.

The two columns are slightly different length (as reflected by the different length light switch rods) but as units are interchangeable functionally and stylistically.

The 1930-31 are all similar in style, different from the 1928-29, all built on a 2 tooth gearbox, but in 3 different lengths (as reflected in their light switch rods A-3616-F, A-3616-G, A-3616-H which are all different.) It is a different column though with different sector/detents at the top of the column and styled for the 1930-31 model car.

Generally I would NOT recommend going to a 7 tooth column UNLESS it comes to you rebuilt and ready to go - or you want to go through the exercise in rebuilding it. Done right (beyond replacement of parts) rebuilding the 7 tooth is a significant challenge.

The two tooth is a challenge too, but the results are a lot more predictable. Ford "improved" the steering because of problems/lack of adjustment/possibly premature early life failures of the 7 tooth column.

Go with the 25 dollar 2 tooth from a pickup.

I bought a $5 2 tooth column from "Honest John" Bradley at the Amherst, NH Antique Auto Flea market. He was selling it so cheap because someone had gotten a wire rope hung up around the steering column and "dented" the exterior of the column quite severely. This a column from someone's "doodle bug" tractor.

Rebuilt only to including straightening the column sheet metal by banging it over a 1" pipe, paint, and re-adjusting - it's my $5 gloat column.

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Old 04-08-2014, 10:50 AM   #8
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Is there any preference between the 2 tooth and the seven tooth?
The column is complete with everything other then the light switch.
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The 1928-29 steering columns resolve themselves into the two types: either 7 tooth with the A-3616-B light switch rod, or the 2 tooth with the A-3616-C light switch rod.

The two columns are slightly different length (as reflected by the different length light switch rods) but as units are interchangeable functionally.

The 1930-31 are all similar in style, different from the 1928-29, all built on a 2 tooth gearbox, but in 3 different lengths (as reflected in their light switch rods A-3616-F, A-3616-G, A-3616-H which are all different.) It is a different column though with different sector/detents at the top of the column for the 1930-31 model car.

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Old 04-08-2014, 11:56 AM   #10
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Vince has a steering shaft length chart on his site. I am on my I-phone right now, so I can not post a link. I am sure someone will post it for you. The 2 tooth is a much better steering box and I would not hesitate using one even if there is a slight difference in length. Rod
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:14 PM   #11
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Vince has a steering shaft length chart on his site.
Here's the chart which will help you from Vince's site.

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/stee...twormchart.htm

Note that this confirms my "only two" steering columns for 1928-29. The topmost of these is the 7 tooth.

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