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Old 06-19-2016, 10:01 PM   #1
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Default Ground ?'s for driving a rolling chassis

Everything is pretty much ready to fire up on my rolling chassis. I need to drive it out of the garage so I can get the body painted. My question is does the terminal box need to be grounded? Right now the ignition coil, terminal box and instrument panel are mounted to a block of wood. I'm thinking the instruments and box should be grounded but I'm not sure where I should put the ground.
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Old 06-19-2016, 10:32 PM   #2
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Nope the terminal box was originally made from hard rubber, nothing to ground.

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Old 06-19-2016, 10:46 PM   #3
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So I could prably get away with putting the jumper on the coil bracket? I have the oe coil bracket mounted to the wood and since its grasping the coil it should be ok ,right? I just didn't want to take any chances burning something up.
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why would the coil case need to be grounded?? If anything inside the coil is touching the case its a bad coil.. Alot of replacements are plastic anyways.
just make sure the generator has a good ground back to the pos post and all the connections are clean and tight. Should be good to go.
having the fuse and a battery disconnect are ideal too but main one that every garage should have is a fire extinguisher.
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:43 PM   #5
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Gotcha. I guess I'll try and start her up tomorrow then. Finally feel like I'm making progress.
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:36 AM   #6
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:50 AM   #7
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Not Model A specific, but I tend to be obsessive about grounds, and add ground wires between bodying frame,body and engine, frame and motor, generator and body, on and on.A lot of electrical quirks and failures are due to something not being properly grounded, even though it would appear to be naturally grounded just by its installation. Paint is often a culprit in causing a grounding failure, and just adding a wire will solve the problem. As an example, when recently wiring my A tail lights I added an extra wire from the tail light housing to a bare metal spot on the body. I know it is not original, but it is more reliable, at least in my opinion.
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I don't see how the coil could work if internals are grounded to the case? How would a plastic cased coil work, does it have another terminal to go to ground that i have not seen?

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You can mount coil in rubber! works fine.! its grounded thru the points
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You can mount coil in rubber! works fine.! its grounded thru the points
Since it can't hurt, why not?
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The circuit is completed by the points being closed. (Grounded). (Charged). Then when opened, it causes the secondary to collapse and ground out as it jumps the spark gap. Ect ect. The case has nothing to do with operational ground. The inside wiring of the coil is called free floating or isolated.
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:13 AM   #12
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the coil dose not need grounded I drove mine like this for four years
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Old 06-20-2016, 07:58 AM   #13
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Not Model A specific, but I tend to be obsessive about grounds, and add ground wires between bodying frame,body and engine, frame and motor, generator and body, on and on.A lot of electrical quirks and failures are due to something not being properly grounded, even though it would appear to be naturally grounded just by its installation. Paint is often a culprit in causing a grounding failure, and just adding a wire will solve the problem. As an example, when recently wiring my A tail lights I added an extra wire from the tail light housing to a bare metal spot on the body. I know it is not original, but it is more reliable, at least in my opinion.
yea one can never have too many grounds and yes paint makes an excelent insulator! to me the engine doesnt have a great ground at all unless you add one - popular and hideable spot is between the frame rail and one of the trans to engine bolts. cant be seen unless your under the car.
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Needing to start your car to get it out of the garage conjures up a very large garage in my imagination.
Haha. On the contrary I'm in a small garage. On top of that my driveway has a steep incline. Anything rolling out of my garage not under its own power would mean more manpower to get back in. I prefer its own power.

the coil dose not need grounded I drove mine like this for four years
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That's exactly how I'm trying to run it. Minus the fenders and such. Those are the items I'm needing to paint as well.
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Got it started and running. So far so good. I'll prably try to pull it out of the garage later today. Thanks for the help fellas.
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