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ford nut · 01-07-2018, 10:49 PM

if this is a no-no, I get it. but i'll ask anyway. i'm looking at a t5 trans with the numbers 1353 - 145 on a tag, cable speedo, possibly for my 36 coupe, 81a engine. I saw a list somewhere about different gear sets in different t5's. anybody know about this? is this a usable gear set? i'll keep looking, thanks.

40cpe · 01-07-2018, 11:03 PM

1353-145 doesn't show up on charts I found. Here is a link to a chart with 1352 prefix numbers. scroll down

http://www.britishv8.org/articles/bo...t5-id-tags.htm

JSeery · 01-07-2018, 11:06 PM

1352-145 is 1985-86 S10 w/2.5 L4 or 2.8 V6. The gears are: 3.76/2.18/1.42/1.00/0.72 That gearing is a little steep for my liking, but is about as good as it gets with S10 gearing.

Alaska Jim · 01-07-2018, 11:41 PM

It is better than a lot of them. a large amount of them , especially from the 4 cyl.'s have 4:03 first gear. not real useable on the street in my opinion. unfortunately, that is the only one that I have , and those Trans's are hard to come across up here. everything gets scraped. very little in the wrecking yards, unless they are less than 3-5 years old. everything else gets crushed. I am still looking for the one I want. you may find that a mustang, Camaro, or trans-am , with a t-5 will have a better ratio, just use the S-10 tail shaft housing for the forward shifter placement.

ford nut · 01-08-2018, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40cpe

1353-145 doesn't show up on charts I found. Here is a link to a chart with 1352 prefix numbers. scroll down

http://www.britishv8.org/articles/bo...t5-id-tags.htm

I typed it wrong- 1352-145 is what it is. (bill told me what "is" means years ago.)

ford nut · 01-08-2018, 01:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

1352-145 is 1985-86 S10 w/2.5 L4 or 2.8 V6. The gears are: 3.76/2.18/1.42/1.00/0.72 That gearing is a little steep for my liking, but is about as good as it gets with S10 gearing.

is there anyway to change the 3.76 to something better?

Alaska Jim · 01-08-2018, 02:29 AM

probably would need to change the cluster gear, along with several other gears, washer, shims, etc,. I am not sure . I am sure someone else can answer that better than I.

flatheadmurre · 01-08-2018, 03:06 AM

To make a good T5 you need 2 gearboxes to start with...one from a car for the gears and the S-10 for the housing.

JSeery · 01-08-2018, 04:08 AM

The gears are interchangeable on most of the T5s. Here are some references to T5 threads on the HAMB that was posted a while back. The Ultimate T-5 Swap Article was posted by Flat Ernie, he often post here on the Barn as well as the HAMB.

"T5 Source Information" "Here are some good threads with info on T5 transmissions & adapting them to our hot rods. Focused mainly on adapting it to the Flathead Ford, there's still lots of good info regarding other adaptations.
Ultimate T5 Tech http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=171291
T5 Oiling Funnel Info for tailshaft swaps http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...66#post2185366
Swapping the tailshaft - a common question well documented http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s....php?p=2994438
General T5 Info http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=20583
Fordbarn post http://www.fordbarn.com/earlyv8/foru...2/5108807.html
Other T5 Posts w/Good Info
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=39127
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=108634
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89495
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=46109
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=53148
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=168748
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161282
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=189368
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=189650
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=323536

Here's a good tech piece on shortening a stock shifter's throw:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=226183

This one covers more than just the T5: Be-All End-All Flatty Tranny Post (Kilroy)
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=65870

Shortening the throw of a T5 shifter: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22617
More Shifter stuff in these posts:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=237711
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=241919

Here, crazydaddyo shows off his way cool Jeep T5 to Torque-Tube conversion:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=256226

And another great Chevy T5 adaptation:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=623998

One of the common questions is about the throwout bearing. In this post, Vergil shows us how he adapted the S10 T/O bearing to the Ford fork: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=323986

Stuck with an electronic speedo and need a cable, the easiest (and likely most expensive) is cable-x:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=798708

Here's a neat thread on using the very late model Mustang (05-07) V6 T5. These are short and have a yoke on the back. The shifter requires some work and this is how our veteran enjenjo did the trick:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...ersion.933071/

And since you can't search for character strings less than 3 letters using the internal search engine, try using Google. Just type in: "T-5" site:jalopyjournal.com or "T5" site:jalopyjournal.com

It'll keep you busy!"

jrvariel48 · 01-08-2018, 04:44 AM

I have a 1352-216 gearbox in my coupe. The gearing is close to what you have. With a 3.25 rear ratio, it works very nicely.

JSeery · 01-08-2018, 04:55 AM

The gear ratio issue is going to depend on what your objective is with the car/truck. If you are just wanting to "drive it ", the gear ratios you have should work fine. If you are more interested in high performance then I would want the closer ratio gear set and a lower rear end gear. I prefer the T5z gear set with the 2.95 1st gear and a 4:11 final drive. It somewhat depends on personal taste!

ford nut · 01-08-2018, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

The gear ratio issue is going to depend on what your objective is with the car/truck. If you are just wanting to "drive it ", the gear ratios you have should work fine. If you are more interested in high performance then I would want the closer ratio gear set and a lower rear end gear. I prefer the T5z gear set with the 2.95 1st gear and a 4:11 final drive. It somewhat depends on personal taste!

weekend cruiser, I will be going through the rear, so a new gear set can be picked. also, thank you very much for putting that list together. I've probably looked at some of those threads, but not all. I've been thinking about this and keeping my eye opened for parts for a few months.

cas3 · 01-08-2018, 11:38 AM

that gets expensive when you need two trannys to make one, plus all the new parts required for an overhaul, and the hogs head adapter. i still like the 4 spd overdrive. shorter, less frame butchering.

1931flathead · 01-08-2018, 11:56 AM

just bought one off the 4 speed overdrive from a 1980s ford pickup it was cheaper then a t5

chopnchaneled · 01-08-2018, 12:42 PM

Can/ Would you tell us/me more on this swap ?
Thanks

38bill · 01-08-2018, 03:47 PM

I have a 1352-145 in my pickup. I'm running a 3:54 rear end and it works fine, just a little low in first. That's not really bad as it makes the truck very easy to drive in traffic, on hills etc. In hind sight a 3:23 rear end would have been better. The overdrive is probably the best thing I did to my truck.

JSeery · 01-08-2018, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ford nut

weekend cruiser, I will be going through the rear, so a new gear set can be picked. also, thank you very much for putting that list together. I've probably looked at some of those threads, but not all. I've been thinking about this and keeping my eye opened for parts for a few months.

Thanks, but not my list, one I copies from the HAMB several years back (I think!

). If you don't mind dinking with it a little, try the gear set you have and see what you think. If you like it your done, if not it is fairly simple to drop it and do a gear swap later.

ford nut · 01-08-2018, 08:52 PM

well I told the guy i'll take it. he also has a 1352- 042 i'll look up. my daughter is going to pick it up and bring it down for me. the trans is up in sacramento and i'm in so-cal. I guess i'm doing it. thanks for all the great replys, i'm sure i'll have more questions as it goes forward. lots of bellhousings / kits to learn about.

Alaska Jim · 01-08-2018, 09:08 PM

I think you will find that the 1352-145 trans is better than the 1352-045 trans. compare the ratio's and the spread between the gears

sidevalve8ba · 01-09-2018, 10:00 AM

Alaska Jim is giving you some good advice there. Better ratios in the -145 gearbox.

01-07-2018, 10:49 PM	#1
ford nut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: rosemead ca. Posts: 574	s15, t5 info. help! if this is a no-no, I get it. but i'll ask anyway. i'm looking at a t5 trans with the numbers 1353 - 145 on a tag, cable speedo, possibly for my 36 coupe, 81a engine. I saw a list somewhere about different gear sets in different t5's. anybody know about this? is this a usable gear set? i'll keep looking, thanks. Last edited by ford nut; 01-08-2018 at 01:12 AM.

01-07-2018, 11:03 PM	#2
40cpe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Star, MS Posts: 4,024	Re: s15, t5 info. help! 1353-145 doesn't show up on charts I found. Here is a link to a chart with 1352 prefix numbers. scroll down http://www.britishv8.org/articles/bo...t5-id-tags.htm

01-07-2018, 11:06 PM	#3
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: s15, t5 info. help! 1352-145 is 1985-86 S10 w/2.5 L4 or 2.8 V6. The gears are: 3.76/2.18/1.42/1.00/0.72 That gearing is a little steep for my liking, but is about as good as it gets with S10 gearing.

01-07-2018, 11:41 PM	#4
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: s15, t5 info. help! It is better than a lot of them. a large amount of them , especially from the 4 cyl.'s have 4:03 first gear. not real useable on the street in my opinion. unfortunately, that is the only one that I have , and those Trans's are hard to come across up here. everything gets scraped. very little in the wrecking yards, unless they are less than 3-5 years old. everything else gets crushed. I am still looking for the one I want. you may find that a mustang, Camaro, or trans-am , with a t-5 will have a better ratio, just use the S-10 tail shaft housing for the forward shifter placement.

01-08-2018, 02:29 AM	#7
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: s15, t5 info. help! probably would need to change the cluster gear, along with several other gears, washer, shims, etc,. I am not sure . I am sure someone else can answer that better than I.

01-08-2018, 03:06 AM	#8
flatheadmurre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,045	Re: s15, t5 info. help! To make a good T5 you need 2 gearboxes to start with...one from a car for the gears and the S-10 for the housing.

01-08-2018, 04:08 AM	#9
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: s15, t5 info. help! The gears are interchangeable on most of the T5s. Here are some references to T5 threads on the HAMB that was posted a while back. The Ultimate T-5 Swap Article was posted by Flat Ernie, he often post here on the Barn as well as the HAMB. "T5 Source Information" "Here are some good threads with info on T5 transmissions & adapting them to our hot rods. Focused mainly on adapting it to the Flathead Ford, there's still lots of good info regarding other adaptations. Ultimate T5 Tech http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=171291 T5 Oiling Funnel Info for tailshaft swaps http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...66#post2185366 Swapping the tailshaft - a common question well documented http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s....php?p=2994438 General T5 Info http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=20583 Fordbarn post http://www.fordbarn.com/earlyv8/foru...2/5108807.html Other T5 Posts w/Good Info http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=39127 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=108634 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89495 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=46109 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=53148 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=168748 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161282 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=189368 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=189650 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=323536 Here's a good tech piece on shortening a stock shifter's throw: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=226183 This one covers more than just the T5: Be-All End-All Flatty Tranny Post (Kilroy) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=65870 Shortening the throw of a T5 shifter: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22617 More Shifter stuff in these posts: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=237711 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=241919 Here, crazydaddyo shows off his way cool Jeep T5 to Torque-Tube conversion: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=256226 And another great Chevy T5 adaptation: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=623998 One of the common questions is about the throwout bearing. In this post, Vergil shows us how he adapted the S10 T/O bearing to the Ford fork: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=323986 Stuck with an electronic speedo and need a cable, the easiest (and likely most expensive) is cable-x: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=798708 Here's a neat thread on using the very late model Mustang (05-07) V6 T5. These are short and have a yoke on the back. The shifter requires some work and this is how our veteran enjenjo did the trick: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...ersion.933071/ And since you can't search for character strings less than 3 letters using the internal search engine, try using Google. Just type in: "T-5" site:jalopyjournal.com or "T5" site:jalopyjournal.com It'll keep you busy!" Last edited by JSeery; 01-08-2018 at 04:36 AM.

01-08-2018, 04:44 AM	#10
jrvariel48 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,425	Re: s15, t5 info. help! I have a 1352-216 gearbox in my coupe. The gearing is close to what you have. With a 3.25 rear ratio, it works very nicely. Last edited by jrvariel48; 01-08-2018 at 06:51 PM. Reason: Wrong number

01-08-2018, 04:55 AM	#11
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: s15, t5 info. help! The gear ratio issue is going to depend on what your objective is with the car/truck. If you are just wanting to "drive it ", the gear ratios you have should work fine. If you are more interested in high performance then I would want the closer ratio gear set and a lower rear end gear. I prefer the T5z gear set with the 2.95 1st gear and a 4:11 final drive. It somewhat depends on personal taste!

01-08-2018, 11:38 AM	#13
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,574	Re: s15, t5 info. help! that gets expensive when you need two trannys to make one, plus all the new parts required for an overhaul, and the hogs head adapter. i still like the 4 spd overdrive. shorter, less frame butchering.

01-08-2018, 11:56 AM	#14
1931flathead Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: central minn Posts: 1,025	Re: s15, t5 info. help! just bought one off the 4 speed overdrive from a 1980s ford pickup it was cheaper then a t5

01-08-2018, 12:42 PM	#15
chopnchaneled Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Buford,Ga. Posts: 87	Re: s15, t5 info. help! Can/ Would you tell us/me more on this swap ? Thanks

01-08-2018, 03:47 PM	#16
38bill Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,166	Re: s15, t5 info. help! I have a 1352-145 in my pickup. I'm running a 3:54 rear end and it works fine, just a little low in first. That's not really bad as it makes the truck very easy to drive in traffic, on hills etc. In hind sight a 3:23 rear end would have been better. The overdrive is probably the best thing I did to my truck.

01-08-2018, 08:52 PM	#18
ford nut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: rosemead ca. Posts: 574	Re: s15, t5 info. help! well I told the guy i'll take it. he also has a 1352- 042 i'll look up. my daughter is going to pick it up and bring it down for me. the trans is up in sacramento and i'm in so-cal. I guess i'm doing it. thanks for all the great replys, i'm sure i'll have more questions as it goes forward. lots of bellhousings / kits to learn about.

01-08-2018, 09:08 PM	#19
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: s15, t5 info. help! I think you will find that the 1352-145 trans is better than the 1352-045 trans. compare the ratio's and the spread between the gears

01-09-2018, 10:00 AM	#20
sidevalve8ba Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Harrisonburg, VA Posts: 842	Re: s15, t5 info. help! Alaska Jim is giving you some good advice there. Better ratios in the -145 gearbox. __________________ The more I learn about new automobiles, the more I value my old ones.