Why coolant is good

[SeaSlugs]

Thought I would share pics of the steel impeller/aluminum body factory water pump off my 1995 s10 that has 226K miles on it when the seals started leaking. No rust or gunk! Truck has had orange dexcool, yellow universal stuff, and has green stuff in it now. So pick a color and use it! If its lasted this long for that many miles there is no reason to use water in a model A.

[updraught]

How often do you change it?

[SeaSlugs]

coolant? whenever something requires it to be drained...ive had to replace the radiator twice (stupid crimp between aluminum fins and plastic tanks always leaks) and for the water pump replacement. I did flush the system at 115K miles. so maybe 3 -4 times in that 226K miles...

[mike657894]

my car sat for 30 years with coolant in it. pulled the coolant looked like it was put in yesterday. I dont think straight water would have done as well.

[mike657894]

WOAH!!!! Chevy talk on the ford forum? heres mine

[DaWizard]

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Originally Posted by mike657894

WOAH!!!! Chevy talk on the ford forum? heres mine

There sure is a good looking Town Sedan in that photo album too!

[SeaSlugs]

i do love me a square body fullsize... must not be in the rust belt as yours still has cab corners, rear wheel wells, and rocker panels...

I did have to spend about 3 hours replacing the battery on my moms 2013 escape today outside in the driveway in 9*f temperature with a 0*F windchill... 3 years old and factory battery dead as a door nail - wont take a charge at all. new 7 year warranty one is $107...

[updraught]

Those fuel consumption issues must be because of the ethanol ...

I always seem to end up with a rusty overflow bottle even when changed every few years. The Subaru dealer says it only needs to be changed every seven years.

[mike657894]

Originally Posted by SeaSlugs

i do love me a square body fullsize... must not be in the rust belt as yours still has cab corners, rear wheel wells, and rocker panels...

I did have to spend about 3 hours replacing the battery on my moms 2013 escape today outside in the driveway in 9*f temperature with a 0*F windchill... 3 years old and factory battery dead as a door nail - wont take a charge at all. new 7 year warranty one is $107...

In michigan. This is right after my tri-annual patch up. had to patch the 6 year old fenders and cab corners this time plus a wheel arch and a rear tail. The chineese steel doesnt last as long as the OE .

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m...212-105748.jpg

[mike657894]

Originally Posted by DaWizard

There sure is a good looking Town Sedan in that photo album too!

trying to make my grandpa proud with his choice to give me the car.

[SeaSlugs]

Originally Posted by updraught

Those fuel consumption issues must be because of the ethanol ...

I always seem to end up with a rusty overflow bottle even when changed every few years. The Subaru dealer says it only needs to be changed every seven years.

I wonder how you get rust... Do you buy the concentrate then make a 50/50 mix using distilled or drinking water? I just use the stuff that comes out of the garden hose, very soft water being only a few blocks from the town treatment plant so no heavy chemicals in it.

[updraught]

When I do it, it is 50/50 and a well known brand. The water is pretty good here.

I had a radiator replaced recently (plastic tanks were getting old) and asked the guy what they used for coolant. He said they don't, as "it's not like Poland here where it gets real cold". They just use some sort of inhibitor stuff.

This was a large national radiator chain. They send their staff to Fiji for a radiator conference each year apparently to learn about ... radiators.

[pooch]

Originally Posted by updraught

When I do it, it is 50/50 and a well known brand. The water is pretty good here.

I had a radiator replaced recently (plastic tanks were getting old) and asked the guy what they used for coolant. He said they don't, as "it's not like Poland here where it gets real cold". They just use some sort of inhibitor stuff.

This was a large national radiator chain. They send their staff to Fiji for a radiator conference each year apparently to learn about ... radiators.

OZ here too, so no need for coolant in general except for real cold bergs.

But, a need for it for electrolysis reasons.

[brokenspoke]

I'm pretty sure at the volume the coolant flows it pretty much keeps it super clean. The coolant does help

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

To me, it seems that Antifreeze that's run TOO LONG, seems to reverse its' corrosion inhibiting properties!
I've seen water pump impeller blades that were just little NUBS!
We would open a WHOLE new can of WORMS, if we discussed ELECTROLISIS !
Bill Stubby

[phonconn]

Seems the old green stuff was not meant to be run in a non pressurized cooling system. At the 88 Marc meet in St Louis we saw a lot of gumming up due to 104 degree days. Radiator tubes got clogged up and then couldn't take the 50+ gallons of water/coolant that was meant to run through the radiator per minute. I was told the new yellow stuff didn't have these issues and didn't gum up like the old green stuff but haven't tried it in mine.
They say "Spring Water" is the best as it is pure water and doesn't ever freeze. Not sure as I haven't tried it but it makes sense.
Dan Bixby
Come see us in Branson Summer of '18

[tbirdtbird]

"it is pure water and doesn't ever freeze"

are you sure?

the onslaught of myths continues; the laws of chemistry and physics will not be denied. Try it and get back to us

[Jeff/Illinois]

Originally Posted by SeaSlugs

I did have to spend about 3 hours replacing the battery on my moms 2013 escape today outside in the driveway in 9*f temperature with a 0*F windchill... 3 years old and factory battery dead as a door nail - wont take a charge at all. new 7 year warranty one is $107...

Just did this on son-in-law's older Escape, with a two year old battery! Won't take a charge either. The original Motorcraft battery was 7 years old. Battery that went bad was a 'Neverlast' from Wal-Mart. Walmart did replace it as he's trading it off next year anyway so no need for a 'good' battery.

[SeaSlugs]

I think its all the power junk like auto opening and closing rear hatch, unlocks and locks all doors with the pull of the drivers handle, has to sit and constantly monitor if the fob is in range or not, turns on the center screen between the speedometer and tach anytime a door is opened and of course every time any of the above happens the parking lights flash/stay on for minutes at a time (not LED either...). Batteries dont like to be charged discharged charged discharged over and over again.

I think the pure water myth is true UNTIL you give it a big enough jolt. Look up super cooled water on youtube - pours as a liquid but instantly freezes when it hits the ground or if someone flicks the bottle you can watch the entire bottle freeze. So kinda right but obviously in a car a door slamming may start the chain reaction of freezing.

Ever open a cold enough beer that was liquid when you took it out of the fridge only to have it freeze when bringing it to your mouth?

[updraught]

Here is some reading from a bit of Googling on coolant/corrosion/copper/brass .

A bit of a basic coolant explanation:
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/...t-fundamentals


" ... Can you run organic coolant in an earlier vehicle? Yes and no. OAT will work if your radiator is aluminum and you flush your entire cooling system with water and then refill with a 50/450 or 60/40 mixture of OAT, but there are some issues with the interaction between organic coolants and lead solder, so using OAT in a copper radiator is not recommended. In short, antifreeze these days can be buyer beware."
https://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/...of-antifreeze/