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Woody Willy · 04-23-2015, 01:25 PM

I need help for a friend that is trying to restore a pickup bed, mixing new parts with old. Does anyone out there know the locations of the spot welds? Or any information that will put him the right direction?

Fullraceflathead · 04-23-2015, 03:40 PM

Is the CC pickup bed different than the roadster???
I have a roadster pickup.

Wello · 04-23-2015, 03:53 PM

I may be wrong but I believe my 29 CCPU bed is riveted, with no spot welds. I can go check if no one else pipes in.

Dan

Dan Partain · 04-24-2015, 01:34 AM

Yes, there are a few spot welds on the narrow bed. I know for sure that the plate that covers the rear support channel, (it also supports the rear of the bed wood) is spot welded to the support channel along it's length.

I'm pretty sure there are a few other places where there were originally spot welds, I can take a look this weekend.

Sorry for the blurry photo, but you can still see where the spot welds were located on part of that area, those spots freshly ground off. You can also see the remnants of the wood member that was in that channel.

-DAN

Woody Willy · 05-04-2015, 10:32 AM

Thanks for the suggestions and help!

Dan Partain · 05-04-2015, 06:57 PM

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Here are a couple of other places I found some spot welds. The plate around the stake holes is spot welded and then riveted. When the rivets are out the plate is still attached. Some of the spot welds are really difficult to see. There may be others I haven't found. Here are some photos.
-DAN

Mikeinnj · 05-11-2015, 08:49 PM

Dan, What size in diameter are the spot welds ?

Are they all the same size ?

How did you remove them ?

Thanks !

Dan Partain · 05-12-2015, 12:43 PM

Mike, the spot welds seem to vary a little bit in size but I will guess that the tips of the spot welder were no larger than 1/4". I looked at the bed again today and found more spot welds on the bracket that holds the rear fenders on. It looks like it may have been spot welded in a couple of places to hold it before it was riveted.

The rear Z plate that I removed was partially loose to start with. I just peeled it up and took a sharp chisel to remove the rest of the spot welds. The Z plate wasn't any good so I destroyed the rest of it as I removed it. I ground down the rest of the spot weld that remained on the U channel after the Z plate was removed. I have a new z plate to put back in when I get that point.

I don't plan on removing any of the other spot welded pieces, there are no issues with any of them. Tom W has mentioned a spot weld drill, something like that would probably be a good idea on the heavy guage steel parts.
-DAN

Jembow · 05-14-2015, 04:54 AM

I've just taken my bed completely apart. The welds are very hard to find. On a more modern car you can see the indentations along the panels, on the A bed I had to slide a fine chisel along the join until I found the point where the panels wouldn't move apart, then lever up the panel that is due for replacement. You can then see the stressed point where the weld is and drill it out. Patience is needed if you are trying to save one of the panels involved.

04-23-2015, 01:25 PM	#1
Woody Willy Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 22	Spot Welds on '29 CC Pickup Bed I need help for a friend that is trying to restore a pickup bed, mixing new parts with old. Does anyone out there know the locations of the spot welds? Or any information that will put him the right direction?

04-23-2015, 03:40 PM	#2
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,176	Re: Spot Welds on '29 CC Pickup Bed Is the CC pickup bed different than the roadster??? I have a roadster pickup. __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

04-23-2015, 03:53 PM	#3
Wello Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Paradise, CA Posts: 97	Re: Spot Welds on '29 CC Pickup Bed I may be wrong but I believe my 29 CCPU bed is riveted, with no spot welds. I can go check if no one else pipes in. Dan

05-04-2015, 10:32 AM	#5
Woody Willy Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 22	Re: Spot Welds on '29 CC Pickup Bed Thanks for the suggestions and help!

05-11-2015, 08:49 PM	#7
Mikeinnj Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 1,262	Re: Spot Welds on '29 CC Pickup Bed Dan, What size in diameter are the spot welds ? Are they all the same size ? How did you remove them ? Thanks !

05-12-2015, 12:43 PM	#8
Dan Partain Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hangtown, CA Posts: 556	Re: Spot Welds on '29 CC Pickup Bed Mike, the spot welds seem to vary a little bit in size but I will guess that the tips of the spot welder were no larger than 1/4". I looked at the bed again today and found more spot welds on the bracket that holds the rear fenders on. It looks like it may have been spot welded in a couple of places to hold it before it was riveted. The rear Z plate that I removed was partially loose to start with. I just peeled it up and took a sharp chisel to remove the rest of the spot welds. The Z plate wasn't any good so I destroyed the rest of it as I removed it. I ground down the rest of the spot weld that remained on the U channel after the Z plate was removed. I have a new z plate to put back in when I get that point. I don't plan on removing any of the other spot welded pieces, there are no issues with any of them. Tom W has mentioned a spot weld drill, something like that would probably be a good idea on the heavy guage steel parts. -DAN

05-14-2015, 04:54 AM	#9
Jembow Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Spalding, United Kingdom Posts: 306	Re: Spot Welds on '29 CC Pickup Bed I've just taken my bed completely apart. The welds are very hard to find. On a more modern car you can see the indentations along the panels, on the A bed I had to slide a fine chisel along the join until I found the point where the panels wouldn't move apart, then lever up the panel that is due for replacement. You can then see the stressed point where the weld is and drill it out. Patience is needed if you are trying to save one of the panels involved.