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OK you guys are definitely talk me out of going the 8 V route. Would it be a good idea to take all the Engine mounts loose and clean them? I am still using the original float a motor mount.
As I had said in previous posts I did run a new ground wire from the frame to the bell housing bolts and clean both areas very well that I mounted it to.
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Are you using a 'modern' barrel drive? Three manufacturers, two of them junk. All barrel drives require a very firm engine start up to disengage. They resist disengagement by rocking after a no-start and often very reluctantly let go, only after several seconds, with a very mild retarded spark start and idle. If you have one get a new Bendix drive.
To complicate matters, barrel drives have far less inertia travel and do not give 100% tooth engagement with a Model A ring gear. If your ring gear is worn in the usual two engine stop places the incomplete tooth engagement may cause jamming. Try a new Bendix drive. |
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If you cleaned the frame to bare metal where the braided cable attaches you should be good... if your not having a slow crank you need to check all what was mentioned.. bent shaft, bendix, flywheel.. many times i had a bent shaft do this.
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Cleaning the mounts will do no good.If properly installed with good rubbers there is no metal-to metal contact between the frame and the mount.If you have an electrical path through the mounts there is something wrong.
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It cranked faster after I added the extra ground cable I know that. It just gets stuck as soon as you hit the starter switch and if I listen I can hear the electrical contact between the button arm and the starter switch then the starter bendix makes a "bump" noise then it's time to open the door and get out of the car.... Ha ha
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Borrow a starter from a Model A friend and see if it is the starter or a flat spot on ring gear.
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02-01-2017, 11:21 AM | #28 |
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As stated by Tom in post 16, put the trans in high gear (third) to snap it loose. You have much more leverage than in low (1st).
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02-01-2017, 12:06 PM | #29 |
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Be sure to use third gear and always push rearward to back the pinion out of the jam. On a bad one, we pushed the car rearward with the clutch, then popped the clutch and it snapped out. Don't do this going forward.
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Just like Tom said. This is an old tractor trick and it usually works. An 8V battery won't fix anything right. Replace the starter drive before looking at the ring gear.
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If this is the problem, an 8 V. battery is only going to jam it tighter! |
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HEAVY grease on the flywheel teeth eliminates a lot of starter locking, even with FUNKY/WORN teeth.
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What a strange idea. A six volt system works with a six volt battery adding more and more volts is going to cause nothing but problems.
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Here's a picture of a starter drive I just saw on ebay. I'll post the link in case someone wants to buy it, but the reason for me posting this picture is to show the non believers that the car needs to be pushed forward in high gear to spin the drive pinion rearward, out of engagement. You might loosen a jammed gear by pushing the car rearward, but you won't spin the pinion rearward by pushing the car rearward in high gear. Follow the direction of the helix on the drive. Now, picture the car being pushed forward so the engine spins in the same direction it runs. The driver's side of the flywheel ring gear will be moving down, and it will spin the pinion clockwise as viewed from the rear. You can see moving the pinion clockwise will spin it rearward. http://www.ebay.com/itm/starter-driv...-/172506856081 Last edited by Tom Wesenberg; 02-02-2017 at 12:11 AM. |
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I learned to keep it in gear when shutting it off and popping the clutch just before the engine totally stopped turning. This most often resulted in good ring gear teeth being in the right position. |
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