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Old 01-13-2018, 09:55 AM   #21
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I will also post some of the T5 adapter information I have posted previously. It might provide you some additional data. Remember, this is T5 specific (actually T5z), but the concept is the same for just about any transmission using a flat adapter plate and a "Hogshead".
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:59 AM   #22
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As of late she spends most of her time in the hospital! Hopefully they are getting everything taken care of. This one was a neck vertebrae fusion.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:05 AM   #23
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I was in that shape a year ago I'm just have to live with what I got best of luck it is the craps of getting old
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:12 AM   #24
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Your wife will be in my prayers that she gets better.
Thanks for posting the pictures.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:57 PM   #25
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Who makes the shifter in the bottom right picture?

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Old 01-13-2018, 01:09 PM   #26
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I don't know, it was a vender at a swap meet. I made my own similar to the one pictured. I can find some photos of the parts if you are interested. My objective was to use an original shifter located in the original location modified to work as a remote shifter. You can do an online search on remote shifters and turn up a lot of examples. They are fairly popular on various mustang applications.
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Old 01-13-2018, 01:59 PM   #27
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Some pictures would be great. I did a search before and didn't see anything
like that shifter.

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Old 01-13-2018, 04:54 PM   #28
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What kind of money are we talking about for the adapter for a 59a eng and the 170 trans?
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:10 PM   #29
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Here are a few of the shifter bracket I built. Sorry, this is all I have photos of at the moment. I will also post some examples of other approaches.
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Thanks for the pictures.

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Old 01-13-2018, 07:39 PM   #31
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Here are a few of the shifter bracket I built. Sorry, this is all I have photos of at the moment. I will also post some examples of other approaches.
You know what, Seery? That right there is some slick stuff, SIR! Curious as to how well (how fast) that thing shifts? DD
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:01 PM   #32
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The same general setup is used in road racing applications.
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Thanks for posting the remote shifter pictures. Looks like you have that problem all figured out.
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:51 PM   #34
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I like the T5z and don't really like the idea of switching the tail housing on a new transmission. I could get the T5z for around $1,100 with free shipping for a few years. That was a deal hard to pass up! But no longer.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:01 PM   #35
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Ford 3+1 overdrive [ 4 speed ] conversion to retain closed drive.
I will have this conversion kit on display at the Pate swap in April together with all the other products I manufacture.
so what is your price and what do you get with it
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Old 01-14-2018, 04:37 PM   #36
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Old 01-22-2018, 12:55 AM   #37
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TJW,,,what’s a good “Round Number Estimate “ (Price) on your conversion..?? That looks like the way to go for one more gear on my 48....
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:46 AM   #38
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JSeery, That is a very nice solution to moving the shifter without disturbing the innards. Seems simple and clean. Thanks - Bob
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:55 AM   #39
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I have neither the equipment or brains that JSeery & others here have, so I used the Model Engineering adapter that Gene Sanders sells. As 51540BAT mentioned , it is a very high quality item. When installed & painted, it's hard to tell it's not an original equipment item. I used a true 4 speed, which has the same bolt pattern as the 3+1.
I'm very happy with the setup. I also added a Gear Vendors O/D behind the 4 speed. Again, it works real well, but in the end it probably would have been less costly and easier to just use a T-5 from a Mustang, and do as "J" did with the shifter.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:04 AM   #40
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TJW,,,what’s a good “Round Number Estimate “ (Price) on your conversion..?? That looks like the way to go for one more gear on my 48....
what I found is the plate is around 200.00 or so to get your shaft re splined is around 80.00 plus shipping both ways to find a transmission is around 500.00 or so plus the shipping
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