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Old 08-24-2020, 09:21 PM   #1
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Default 1932 engine numbers?

I have a couple of binder engine units that I am starting to work on. Both seem to be in pretty good condition overall and it's looking like they are both are still standard bore size.

The serial numbers are only 1,521 apart but the numbers stamped on the blocks are much higher than the highest numbers listed in Les Andrews index.


I thought that most of the binder and industrial engines weren't numbered.

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Old 08-24-2020, 09:50 PM   #2
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According to Vince's site one is a 1936 and the other 1937.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ABenginenumbers.htm
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Look for a diamond on the block.
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B engines were not stamped with a number when they left the Ford factory, the number was stamped on a boss on the bell housing. It matched the frame number and the transmission. Commercial B engines were likely stamped by whoever built the machine they were being used on.
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Thanks gentlemen. I hadn't seen that listing on the serial numbers and production notes. Very interesting. So it looks like I should find B cam shafts when I get them opened up.
Paul they both are diamond blocks. What differences are there in these than the non diamond blocks?
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I've reground farm equipment diamond B engines, did one from Australia. To my surprise the factory grind on it was the A grind, not a B grind I expected. Factory B cams came with 3 different lifts, .303", .315" and .339". The 339 has slightly more duration too, good luck on finding one of those!
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Since B model engines are different, at least a person can tell by the fuel pump boss and a few other things that they were intended to be a model B engine. A lot of the early ones had the AB stampings that went out to the Ford assembly plants but Ford Koln was the only one that I'm aware of that used the same pad as the model A. The A engines were produced in smaller numbers after the production stopped on the model A since they were building engines for several agricultural related implement manufacturers. I don't know how many companies were purchasing them but I'm sure there were several plus Ford needed to maintain repair parts for a time. The diamond marked blocks were most likely cast by outside contractors after production stopped at Dearborn. There were at least two foundry related companies not far from Detroit that used a diamond in some form as a casting mark. I've never seen any smoking gun as to what company actually did the foundry work but it was carried on for quite few years after the model A production ended. Vince's site lists 1941 as the last year of production at the Rouge.

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