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Old 03-24-2021, 10:49 AM   #1
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My Covid 19 winter project has come to fruition. I now have a1953 Mercury motor running on an early Chevrolet TBI system with a custom made wiring harness and a reprogrammed chip. Unit is bolted to an Edelbrock 4 barrel manifold. Actually runs great. Very responsive with more power. I always thought my motor was rather lazy. The FI has made it alive.
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Old 03-24-2021, 11:10 AM   #2
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I now have a1953 Mercury motor running on an early Chevrolet TBI system with a custom made wiring harness and a reprogrammed chip. Unit is bolted to an Edelbrock 4 barrel manifold.
Hey Pantera....(I love them things!)....Welcome to the FordBarn! We just had a recent thread with several guys talking flatheads and F.I. You seem to have done more than 'talk' about it. I know we would love to see some pics, especially of that old Flat 'Fuelie', along with any other pertinent details. If per chance you can't figure-out how to post pics yet, you can e-mail them to me at:

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.....and I can likely post them here for ya. You're gonna like it here. Lots of sharp folks on these pages. DD
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Along with some pictures, some more information on your engine build would be great; (bore and stroke, cam, ignition, etc.).
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Old 03-24-2021, 11:37 AM   #4
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Welcome the FordBarn Forums Pantera1973.

I'd also like to hear how you handled crank position computer input.
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Old 03-24-2021, 01:08 PM   #5
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Pictures would be great! What are you doing for ignition? Ken
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Old 03-24-2021, 02:12 PM   #7
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Photos have been sent to roundmotor. Photos will show the early Chevrolet TBI from a 4.3 liter for my purposes, the unit has bee rotated 180 degrees. This places the throttle linkages on the passenger side so I could use the existing Ford linkage. I modified a spare throttle rod as per the photo and then used a brake cable from a P-Series Vespa scooter to complete the linkage. It has a barrel end that goes in the rotating section of the linkage after it was drilled to size. An adapter is needed between the 4 barrel Edelbrock manifold that is available on Ebay or other sources. The sensors, computer, TBI, fuel lines at TBI and air cleaner all are salvage yard parts. Fuel and return lines are steel and can be realigned SLOWLY with a tube bender. My fuel return line goes in a hole I drilled in the top of the gauge sending unit JB welded in. Several vendors will supply the necessary harness. The chip needs to be reprogrammed. Let me know if you have a problem finding a harness maker or someone to do the chip.
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Old 03-24-2021, 02:18 PM   #8
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Forgot the ignition information. I used a distributor from a 57 to 74 Chevrolet V8 motor modified to fit the flathead. I an using a Fast internal ignition module. A Petronix would be an alternate. No reason the flathead distributor with an electronic ignition could not be used. My system has been converted to all 12V negative ground. Motor is stock
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Forgot the ignition information. I used a distributor from a 57 to 74 Chevrolet V8 motor modified to fit the flathead. I an using a Fast internal ignition module. A Petronix would be an alternate. No reason the flathead distributor with an electronic ignition could not be used. My system has been converted to all 12V negative ground. Motor is stock

Pantera .....As promised, here are your Flathead/Fuelie pictures. I must say that it has really gotten 'busy' under that hood. I'm sure some of us will have more questions for you about this unique project. I'm curious about what you've done for a cooling fan?

Congratulations on such an ambitious project, especially if it runs as well as you say. We wouldn't mind pics of the rest of the car, either! DD











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Old 03-24-2021, 07:49 PM   #10
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Thanks for putting the photos on. To answer your question on the cooling fan; its electric located in front of the radiator. I think I have figured out the way to put photos on and will send one of the car with a description of what has been done to it tomorrow. Regards: Arnie
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Old 03-24-2021, 07:55 PM   #11
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It seems like a successful build. I look forward to seeing photos of this project soon. Your hard work paid off since the car is back to life again.
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Old 03-24-2021, 08:29 PM   #12
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long live covid! my 36 is getting done too. (just kidding on the first line.)
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My Covid 19 winter project has come to fruition. I now have a1953 Mercury motor running on an early Chevrolet TBI system with a custom made wiring harness and a reprogrammed chip. Unit is bolted to an Edelbrock 4 barrel manifold. Actually runs great. Very responsive with more power. I always thought my motor was rather lazy. The FI has made it alive.
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Old 03-25-2021, 06:13 AM   #14
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The look off the modern fuelie and the duck bill breather sittin' there doing it's thing. The db must wonder what's going on. You may have 'lit the fire'.
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Congratulations
I've been thinking along the same lines (retrofitting early GM TBI). I'm using a magnetic pickup on a GM distributor and the early GM HEI module to fire an e-coil. I'd like to be able to use the 2nd gen "brain" (or something similar) to control the timing.
How did you deal with the 02 sensor to program the fuel flow??.
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Old 03-25-2021, 10:04 AM   #16
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The oxygen sensor is located on the exhaust pipe about below where the number 3 cylinder is located. Exhaust is stock. The sensor is a 4 wire Delco.
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Old 03-25-2021, 10:24 AM   #17
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Nice set up, cant wait to see more! Thanks Dave
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:13 PM   #18
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Very cool! Are you using resistor plugs and wires? I did for my fuel injection install as it was recommended, but am not sure if it was needed.
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Old 03-25-2021, 01:46 PM   #19
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As per the requests attached is a photo of the coupe. When purchased about 5 or 6 years ago it was essentially an undriveable survivor. Car has minimal rust, original paint and striping and original interior. Brakes might as well have been nonexistant. Brakes repaired with a kit from Flathead Teds, New shoes and rod ends (still run mechanical brakes). Motor that came with the car had a welded repair between the #7 cylinder and exhaust valve that failed. Now has a 53 Mercury motor. Two Coker WW radial tires blew out and now has normal off the rack radials. Tube shocks on all four corners with aftermarket sway bars on the front and rear. Its a daily driver that one probably could call a restomod.
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Man, I LIKE that! The 'survivor' look is just right. Might could use some more spring attention to raise the rear a smidge, or maybe even a larger rear tire. I'm just mouthing-off as usual! DD


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