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10-08-2019, 06:33 PM | #1 |
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Oil pan baffels ?
Hey Guys ! I am in the process of "de - sludging" a truck oil pan . I do not know the year . It does not have the big removable cleanout plate like some , but does have a baffle , like some others . If I were to remove this baffle by carefully cutting it out , I would be able to do an easier/better job cleaning it . Then I could tack weld it back in afterwards . My question (s) : Do I even need this baffle ? How come some truck pans have it , and some don't ? Thanks - F F
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10-08-2019, 07:36 PM | #2 |
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Re: Oil pan baffels ?
Yes you need the baffle. My first hand experience has proven that without it being in place you may lose pressure going around corners and hills.
I had repaired a 34 coupe a couple of years ago with just those issues. It had been to three shops prior to mine. I checked everything 'easy" and after finding no issues, removed the pan. Someone had removed it to install a "modern" oil pump. I had welded in as much baffle as possible to each side of the new pump sump. Problem fixed.
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10-08-2019, 08:35 PM | #3 |
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Re: Oil pan baffels ?
Thanks Kube ! Any idea why some of these rear sump pans have a baffle , and some don't ?
Also , what do you mean by a " modern " pump ? - F F |
10-09-2019, 07:34 AM | #4 | |
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Often times guys install a Melling (or equivalent) high volume pump when working on the engine. That puts the sump in a very different place. It (sump) interferes with the baffle. I've done this modification but instead of simply removing the entire baffle, I will remove only what is necessary to clear the (relocated) sump.
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10-09-2019, 07:37 AM | #5 |
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Re: Oil pan baffels ?
I'd suggest leaving that baffle alone and clean the pan with that inplace. It's there for a good reason. I've had oil pans that leaked at the spot welds because someone had cut the center section out, then bent what was left on the sides to get that out of the way....which wound up fracturing a weld unbeknownst to them. I had to eventually remove that oil pan to have that fractured weld repaired.
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10-09-2019, 04:25 PM | #6 |
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10-10-2019, 06:45 PM | #7 |
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Re: Oil pan baffels ?
A lifetime ago , while tearing down some flatheads in the shop I was working at , I noticed all the stationary pump motors had no baffles in the pan , the 2 car/ truck engines did have the baffles . Usually we just tore down without regard to keeping oil pans and covers ( timing ) marked . This was different, boss said keep em matched .
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10-10-2019, 09:27 PM | #8 |
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Re: Oil pan baffels ?
None of the 8BA truck pans ever had baffles, and the only 8BA Car pan I've seen them in was the Merc pan. I have one of those on my truck.
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10-11-2019, 07:31 AM | #9 |
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Re: Oil pan baffels ?
Never thought of the horizontal plate in the Merc. pan as a 'baffle', but a 'windage tray' that keeps the crank assembly from churning up the oil.
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10-11-2019, 07:45 AM | #10 |
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Re: Oil pan baffels ?
32-4 pans are long and straight. 35 up have more of a "sump" where the oil sets, some of them had sumps and some later may not have. Some even had a sump well arrangement where the pump intake was.
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10-11-2019, 02:13 PM | #11 |
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10-11-2019, 04:18 PM | #12 |
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I was referring to a raised ring, well type construction where the pump pickup would go.
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