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Old 08-03-2023, 06:34 AM   #1
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Default ID of Water Take-off please

A special early V8 flathead has pump-less water take-offs.
Can anyone here identify them, please?

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Old 08-03-2023, 07:27 AM   #2
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How about a pic showing the entire engine?
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Old 08-03-2023, 07:56 AM   #3
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I think that showing the whole thing will raise more questions and detract from my original enquiry. I just want to know where the water take-offs came from and whether a pair may be available somewhere.

But since you've asked, here goes :
The car was built in 1935 in England to race at Brooklands Motor Course. Development of the engine included Federal Mogul argentiferous copper high compression heads and eight AMAL motor cycle carburettors, down draught. The 1932 Ford V8 chassis was shortened and underslung at the rear where the track was reduced. A Lincoln gearbox was used with a shortened torque tube. The steering was geared up with a longer Pitman arm for 1½ turns lock-to-lock.

Now, what about those water take-offs?


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Old 08-03-2023, 03:25 PM   #4
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Can’t help, but will say Wow! Would love to hear it run.
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Old 08-03-2023, 03:45 PM   #5
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Regret I cannot let you hear that - photo was taken in 1938. I'm re-creating that engine.
However, I can let you hear the engine that's in the car now - 305ci blown flathead. The fastest flathead on Pendine Sands - standing start half mile to 117 mph.

https://youtu.be/pMaup4QUPaw
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Thanks. That is a start. Will take a rain check on the re-creation.
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Old 08-03-2023, 06:55 PM   #7
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A steel welded up [fabricated], or aluminum, version would work. Newc
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Old 08-04-2023, 10:18 AM   #8
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Watch some of the videos of Michael Waller (Brittania Motorcycles) or Allen Millyard (both from the UK). They both do some amazing fabrication work on motorcycles. A Casting might be the obvious solution, but a welded/fabricated piece would work as well.

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Old 08-04-2023, 11:15 AM   #9
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You might also look for a metal sculpture student who does aluminum castings. My brother taught sculpture for years and he and some of his students did that sort of thing. For a commission, of course. He actually came to the UK a few times to do seminars/work with a fellow in Wales named Harvey Hood. Not sure what school he was affiliated with. Google might know. My brother's name was Charles Hook, taught at Florida State U for years.

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Old 08-04-2023, 11:33 AM   #10
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Regret I cannot let you hear that - photo was taken in 1938. I'm re-creating that engine.
However, I can let you hear the engine that's in the car now - 305ci blown flathead. The fastest flathead on Pendine Sands - standing start half mile to 117 mph.

https://youtu.be/pMaup4QUPaw
Dang. Congrats. Did you start out in second or is the car geared that way? Sounded like it took a bit to rev up, but sounded glorious at speed as it went by.
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Old 08-04-2023, 08:31 PM   #11
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I'm going to guess the water outlets on the originally pictured engine were special made. I have not seen anything like them before. Your best bet is probably to make a set yourself, either assembled and welded out of aluminum or cast.
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I'm going to guess the water outlets on the originally pictured engine were special made. I have not seen anything like them before. Your best bet is probably to make a set yourself, either assembled and welded out of aluminum or cast.
Yes, it seems they must have been specially cast so I will do the same.

Thanks to all who replied with constructive suggestions - greatly appreciated.
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