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Old 11-11-2021, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default Mounting ‘Tubman’ condenser on dome distributor

Hello everyone, just bought a condenser from Mr.Tubman and I was wondering if anyone has some tips on mounting the condenser on this type of distributor and mainly ones with the coils used on 34s the compact circle coils.
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Old 11-11-2021, 03:09 PM   #2
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Normally can mount with a clamp which fits around the condenser and will have a hole at the lug section which will secure on one of the coil securing screws
The can be picked up from any hardware store as long as you get one the correct diameter to pull up and secure condenser.
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I Think that actually mounting the unit is not the problem, but making the electrical connections is. I have tried to help this kid (he is 16), but my knowledge of the pre-war distributors is not what it should be, as I am an "8BA guy". I think several on here have done this and should be able to help. I had gotten pictures of several installations, but those pictures are on my computer back in Minnesota, and I am in Florida for the winter. The "integral" condensers on these units is what complicates matters.
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Florida for the winter, eh? I'd no idea those capacitors were so lucrative. /s
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Old 11-11-2021, 04:54 PM   #5
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I have a couple of the original style condensers for the helmet distributor. It is a semi circular deal with the condenser mounted in the center of the "circle." It (they) mount on the distributor mounting screws. I would post a picture but that is above my pay grade.
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Florida for the winter, eh? I'd no idea those capacitors were so lucrative. /s

Ha ....Tub flits-around the planet as he pleases, as any self-made, robustly-affluent & retired entrepreneur might. His making available of the beautiful capacitors he supplies is out of his love of the hobby, and in support of those in need of some of the finer details in this hobby. I've heard that he loses a small fortune on every capacitor that he lovingly ships! DD
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I have a couple of the original style condensers for the helmet distributor. It is a semi circular deal with the condenser mounted in the center of the "circle." I would post a picture but that is above my pay grade.

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I have a couple of the original style condensers for the helmet distributor. It is a semi circular deal with the condenser mounted in the center of the "circle." It (they) mount on the distributor mounting screws. I would post a picture but that is above my pay grade.
Lawson I believe what you are describing is a radio suppressor for a helmet. The condenser fits in the hole on helmet coil
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Old 11-11-2021, 06:09 PM   #9
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Here’s a picture of how I mounted mine. I later ran a new set of wires soldered to the connectors.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:17 PM   #10
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Here is the coil that I am working with. Because of the older style the fan is above the distributor and most everything else is cramped. A real pain to work with but that’s besides the point.

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Old 11-12-2021, 01:29 AM   #11
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I’m away from home at the moment ,but, I mounted mine on a little lug I made ,it’s mounted on the top timing cover 5/16 bolt, and, in the coil where the old condenser screw was, I put a longer screw from the inside where the old condenser was and a lock nut on the out side,then slip the new condenser wire onto it then another nut,I use this method for all the condensers on my 33 &34,it makes it easy to change on the roadside if needed
When I’m back home next week I can post a pick if needed
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:32 AM   #12
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The original 1934 Ford condenser fits inside the bakelite tunnel on the back of the coil (its part of the coil) and the threaded brass terminal on the condenser has a little screw that threads into this terminal from the outside of the coil. You have to get a longer screw to go through the tunnel so that a nut can be fitted on the outside of that screw and then this becomes your new connection for your condenser wire. A second nut is required to hold the condenser wire on the terminal screw. Might be easier to fit an allan head screw in the tunnel so that the alan key can easier locate the screw through the hole and hold it while you screw the first nut on the outside. Good idea to use shakeproof washers under terminal nuts to stop them coming loose. If you find this all to difficult then you could buy the correct 34 V8 condenser from Michael at Third Generation Auto in TN. Just another check make sure the terminal nuts on the back of the ignition switch and on each end of the resistor are all tight. Regards, Kevin.
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I have a couple of the original style condensers for the helmet distributor. It is a semi circular deal with the condenser mounted in the center of the "circle." It (they) mount on the distributor mounting screws. I would post a picture but that is above my pay grade.
Like this, Lawson?

This is for a 1937 to '41 distributor....Won't work on a '34 application
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Lawson, the above condenser is not for a 1934 Ford its later like 37 or so and the above post is only confusing the issue. Lets stick with ORIGINAL 1934 Ford parts please. Regards, Kevin
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Kevin, also on the circuit breaker under the dash,mine had a loose connection there,it took a few years to sort out ,and 5 mins to fix.
I use a metric set screw about 30 mm long and one nut and spring washer,then the wire terminal,and another spring washer and nut,
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Lawson I believe what you are describing is a radio suppressor for a helmet. The condenser fits in the hole on helmet coil
I believe so too.
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Default Re: Mounting ‘Tubman’ condenser on dome distributor

Thank you everyone for the suggestions and help, what I am having a problem with right now is how cramped the distributor area is. Below is a picture showing a ‘Tubman’ condenser and how it does not fit in the cramped area. If anyone knows a good way to mount the condenser or where to allow for good room it would be a good help.

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Old 11-12-2021, 02:31 PM   #18
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Would it be possible to make a tab off this bolt and mount the condenser crosswise horizontally?
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I’m away from home at the moment ,but, I mounted mine on a little lug I made ,it’s mounted on the top timing cover 5/16 bolt, and, in the coil where the old condenser screw was, I put a longer screw from the inside where the old condenser was and a lock nut on the out side,then slip the new condenser wire onto it then another nut,I use this method for all the condensers on my 33 &34,it makes it easy to change on the roadside if needed
When I’m back home next week I can post a pick if needed
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From the picture I posted above did you mean mounting the “p clamp” on the bolt directly above the coil? Then running the lead wire down to the original condenser holder? If you wanted use my picture to better explain so I can grasp better.
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Would it be possible to make a tab off this bolt and mount the condenser crosswise horizontally?

Just thought about this and asked above. I believe that is what he was talking about. I would have to get a bigger clamp that fits a 5/16 bolt.

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