12-19-2023, 12:37 PM | #101 |
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No doubt, it's amazing what you can learn browsing those pages. I found a grease fitting I didn't know existed last night. For the shifter linkage on the column! I was wondering why the 54 Ford parts car had one, and the Meteor didn't. It was covered in 60 year old grease.
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12-20-2023, 09:26 AM | #102 |
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Interesting, the list of what this fits:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20428902153...Bk9SR9qAw_mQYw https://www.ebay.com/itm/18613332661...Cclp%3A4429486 No luck finding the ram with the tube on top. Last edited by Merc Cruzer; 12-20-2023 at 09:45 AM. |
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12-20-2023, 10:59 AM | #103 |
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The first listing looks like they took their list straight from Rockauto.
I measured the top of my pump and it was 5.5 inches. |
12-20-2023, 12:27 PM | #104 |
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The MPC calls for C0AA 3A642-A (5 29/64" OD) (Late 1954/ ).
- HALT! - !!! HOLD THE PRESSES !!! C0AA 3A642-A is INCORRECT. The actual PN is C0AA 3A642-B GIGGLE it on your INNER-SCREEN and you will find NOS and aftermarket. EDIT - AFTERMARKET SOURCE - https://www.npdlink.com/product/gask...r-cover/140009 ... getting hard to find good help ... ... sheesh ...
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12-20-2023, 12:43 PM | #105 |
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The FORD CYLINDER (BENDIX) (BENDIX and MONROE sold this design) should have an ID STAMPING somewhere on the cylinder or ends. When you get it off, look for it.
I am thinking ... ... that that external by-pass is needed but if aftermarket may have the relief valve within the assembly. If you decide to go aftermarket, hold onto the old cylinder until it can be identified.
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12-20-2023, 02:08 PM | #107 |
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Hey Kultulz, good job finding that part number! I was thinking of digging it up in the MPC! (look at me using new acronyms)
Now, I wonder if there is a Felpro or some other brand that has that gasket? That gasket from NPD was likely made by Felpro or Cometic or somebody else?? In the picture the gasket doesn't look like cork, more of a standard paper type gasket, or is it rubber? Merc cruzer, my pump is the one with the shorter neck on it. Both were available in 54 according to the MPC. I will definitely keep the old ram if I buy a new one. It still works fine as is, I will be monitoring the leak over the next couple weeks. |
12-20-2023, 02:46 PM | #108 |
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"I will definitely keep the old ram if I buy a new one. It still works fine as is, I will be monitoring the leak over the next couple weeks." I will interested to know with the stop leak in conjunction with the heat cycles, if the leaking gets better. |
12-20-2023, 07:17 PM | #109 |
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There was a production break on the 1953/54 pump and 1954/55 pump. The later reservoir was smaller in diameter -
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KULTULZ,
Interesting. In my 54'-55' book it shows the two different sizes. My July 54' Mercury book, it only shows one for 53'. The "*" is interesting in the 54'-55' book. Last edited by Merc Cruzer; 12-20-2023 at 09:58 PM. |
12-20-2023, 10:48 PM | #111 |
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Merc Cruzer, what is that device on the inside fender just in front of the voltage regulator on your car? It has a hose or two going to it.
Drove the car tonight, no change in the performance, other than the car needing an alignment. Had a 3 inch spot in the cookie sheet I put under it. Cleaned it off and will see what it has under there tomorrow night. That fluid is very thin, it almost seemed to evaporate and just kind of leave a stain. Definitely have to change that cover gasket, it leaks just driving around. |
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The PARTS CATALOGS (as well as SHOP MANUALS) were printed by quarter of the model year, the later/superseding issue(s) showing any PN/info changes. That's what you are seeing. I have a 1949-1953 MERC CHASSIS CATALOG but the PRINT DATE is DEC 1952. There is no mention of PS in it. It makes me wonder if some/most PS SYSTEMS were DEALER INSTALLED in those years. My info is from the 1949/59 FORD MPC - FINAL ISSUE (and there is much in there that has been deleted). CONTINUING - In your 53 MERC CHASSIS CATALOG, look at BASIC PN 33304 (PS INSTALL KIT) - 33533 (PS COVER ASSY) and 33535 (PS COVER GASKET). RE-READ POST #104 as I made a boo-boo there and corrected it (I hope). INVALUABLE INFO - https://www.stangerssite.com/steeringsysteminfo.html Last edited by KULTULZ; 12-21-2023 at 03:10 AM. Reason: THE USUAL |
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12-21-2023, 09:31 AM | #113 |
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I have a 1949-1953 MERC CHASSIS CATALOG but the PRINT DATE is DEC 1952. There is no mention of PS in it. It makes me wonder if some/most PS SYSTEMS were DEALER INSTALLED in those years. PS was first offered in Mercury's in 1953. |
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This prior post should answer that for you. When you read it, let me know if you have any questions.They are great, to say the least. Same company that made your wipers. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...=186904&page=3 Last edited by Merc Cruzer; 12-21-2023 at 01:01 PM. |
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I figured I wouldn't make it clear. Your issue (1949-1953 MERC CHASSIS) is JUL 1954 - My issue (1949-1953 MERC CHASSIS) was printed DEC 1952. There is no mention of PS in that issue. So the PS had to be offered after first 1953 model year intro, somewhere in the 2nd printing. Your issue is going to contain more and corrected info.
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12-21-2023, 11:23 AM | #116 |
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FYI: Power steering in my book runs from pages 53-71.
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12-21-2023, 11:29 AM | #117 |
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I also noticed in my 54'-55' book, it shows two different "Cylinder assy" (ram), with two different part numbers.
It also shows the two different PS systems for 54' and 55' Last edited by Merc Cruzer; 12-21-2023 at 11:40 AM. |
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I will have to try to check mine (that should be fun!) to see if it was Bendix:
FORD / EATON STYLE PUMP How It Works - Illustrated description of the parts and operation of the Eaton style pump used from 1958 to 1965 I gave him a call and he hasn't worked on one from 53' or 54'. I sent him pictures to see if he has the parts. Thanks for the lead. Last edited by Merc Cruzer; 12-21-2023 at 12:34 PM. |
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