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06-30-2020, 04:06 PM | #21 | |
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SOCAL-LED 2x Arrow LED DRL Switchback Strips 10" (25cm) 12V Sequential Flashing Turn Signal Lights, Dual-Color Amber White by SOCAL-LED LIGHTING The attached picture is how I mounted them on my car. |
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06-30-2020, 04:16 PM | #22 |
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Thanks to everyone who has tossed out ideas, I will be trying everything one by one and will let you all know what solves the problem.
Here is a link to Amazon that shows the lights https://www.amazon.com/SOCAL-LED-Swi.../dp/B07KKNKX6J and also this one that has a video of the light working, you may have to copy and paste this into your browser SOCAL-LED 2x Arrow LED DRL Switchback Strips 10" (25cm) 12V Sequential Flashing Turn Signal Lights, Dual-Color Amber White by SOCAL-LED LIGHTING And this is the light mounted on my car |
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06-30-2020, 05:39 PM | #23 |
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Nice lights for 12 volt A's I have 6volts☹️ Looking at their site SoCal, they have flicker Eliminator's for HID headlights, just maybe SoCal led might help you?
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07-01-2020, 10:56 PM | #24 |
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Thought I would keep ya all updated on my progress.
Tried putting power feed and ground right to battery, thought it might act as a sort of cushion. NO CHANGE Changed to a modern Dist. cap and wires including the coil wire. NO CHANGE Changed out all the wires with RF Suppression wires. NO Change Covered the control box with foil. NO CHANGE Going to try some resistor spark plugs................... Looking into wire shielding................ Going to get an old AM radio near the enging and see I I still have RF noise I'm running out of ideas Please keep yours coming Signals and DRL still work great until the enging starts running????? |
07-01-2020, 11:41 PM | #25 |
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Dang, PalAl, you are going to be into this a bloody fortune by the time you are done reinventing the electrical system. Maybe the turn signal/running lights just aren't engineered with the noisy Model A.
For all the electrical and RF noise in a Model A, you can't beat incandescent lights - or LED's that are properly designed. |
07-02-2020, 12:38 AM | #26 |
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I also have LED headlights by JDMastar, no problem there either. Go figure!
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07-02-2020, 06:56 AM | #27 | |
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This will most likely be an easy fix in the end. I hope |
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07-02-2020, 07:07 AM | #28 |
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Carl I have all LED rear (two taillights) with load resistors and a third brake light, LED front turn lights and they worked fine on 6v Pos. ground with an alt. I am now 12v neg. ground with an alt. and the rear still works fine. I sure do have a gremlin hiding in the new front DRL/turn lights. Going to try an isolated 12v power source for grins today and an electronic flasher. May just have to shield the wires for this unit????
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07-02-2020, 07:46 AM | #29 |
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Try disconnecting the alternator. Perhaps it has a problem. Just trying to think outside of the box - had a car that the lights would flicker and it was the alternator. Probably does not make complete sense, but this would remove one variable.
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07-02-2020, 10:16 AM | #30 | |
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Or did you mean to remove the fan belt to disconnect the alternator? |
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07-02-2020, 10:20 AM | #31 |
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Don't disconnect for very long, will overheat.
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07-02-2020, 11:27 AM | #34 |
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Ok........ all my other rear tail, turn and brake LED lights are working fine, the front DRL/sequential turn led lights work with the engine not running but go nuts with the enging running, DRL flash, turn signals go on both left and right or just one side etc.
Just tried connecting the power and ground for these LED lights to an external 12 volt battery, DRL worked fine turned on the car battery to use the turn signals... they worked fine. Started the engine they all go crazy flashing and blinking............ Back to the drawing board |
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So RFI appears to be the problem. Best to attack the cause with resistor wires/ferrite beads if possible, otherwise replace the signal wires with shielded wire. Ground all the shields at one end Grounding both ends can cause shield currents which can also cause interference.
Before going to all that work, try replacing the distributor capacitor, or find someone who can test yours. Another thought, a similar capacitor across each LED assembly may help. |
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07-02-2020, 12:19 PM | #37 |
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Yet another option - run ground return wires in parallel with each signal wire. Do not connect LED end to chassis. RFI in both wires should cancel each other.
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07-02-2020, 03:32 PM | #38 | |
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Good point, I would do both belt and wiring. I am assuming it has the issue all the time, but as Badpuppy notes would not let it run for more than a few minutes in case it wants to overheat. |
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07-02-2020, 05:30 PM | #39 |
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All seems so simple
RED wire to ACC. or in my case a switch This is for DRL White wire is fused to power Puts power to control box Black wire GROUND Yellow (TWO) to turn signal feed left and right All these wire go into the control box, left and right turn signal come out of the other end of the box and go to LED Strip. SIMPLE Would seem to me I would want to shield each wire going to the control box and not the plug in wires to the led strips from the opposite side of the box . Seems like the RIF is creating false signals going into the box......... right UGG my brain is starting to smoke Going to try all suggestions, some parts on order One of my Model A "buddies?" told me it's a Model A Keep It Simple Stupid I will argue that when I solve this...lol |
07-02-2020, 06:35 PM | #40 |
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In reading instructions for installing 1930's car radios in cars they recommend a much tighter gap between the rotor and the dist cap to reduce interference.
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