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Walt Ebie · 01-22-2017, 02:13 PM

I'm working on a scale model of my wife's home in Kansas where this car was parked. Since the actual house is gone now, I thought the wheelbase of the car would help me figure out the scale of the house. I know if this is a "T" the wb would be 100 inches, but I'm not sure it is a T. So what do you think? Can anybody ID this car with any certainty?

DougVieyra · 01-22-2017, 02:22 PM

I sent a copy of the photo to the boys at Langley, VA., and they said, while not knowing for sure what the marque of the car is, their detailed analysis of the car does show a 102 inch space between the front axle and the rear axle.

daveymc29 · 01-22-2017, 02:35 PM

Stanley Steamer?

Bob C · 01-22-2017, 03:08 PM

I was thinking the same thing because of the short hood.

Bob

2manycars · 01-22-2017, 03:39 PM

If it is a model T, then the photo is reversed, as the spare tire would block the only access to the front seat.

KGBnut · 01-22-2017, 07:24 PM

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Wooden spokes and no spokes on the spare tire. Did the Model T ever have dismountable rims? 12 spoke rims.

Also, is it just me or does that top extend way past the windshield?

KGBnut · 01-22-2017, 07:37 PM

I'm startin' to think Buick. Check out this one. Look at the line where the seat-backs meet the body, and also the cylinder on the running board. Scroll through the pictures.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/valuation...-Model-25.aspx

bnchief · 01-23-2017, 06:11 AM

Definitely not a t because of tire where driver gets in also the cannister on the runningboard is a carbide generator for the headlights so I would think it is around 1914 and has the two man top irons as well. I live in kansas where was this photo taken?

3.6rs · 01-23-2017, 06:49 AM

Should this post not be in the T forum ?

bnchief · 01-23-2017, 06:58 AM

Maybe but it is not a model t and a lot of model a guys have model t fords so they can help.

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 01-23-2017, 07:01 AM

It is not a T or a Stanley, however the picture is too fuzzy to get a view of the rear fender detail, and the rear axle assy. My initial guess is that it is/was an EMF or Maxwell, or Overland from around 1912. Most of those cars used a 108" to 114" wheelbase.

3.6rs · 01-23-2017, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bnchief

Maybe but it is not a model t and a lot of model a guys have model t fords so they can help.

Most of the model T guys have.... euh model T's. The model T guys will have more model T's then the model A guys...

Walt Ebie · 01-23-2017, 07:38 AM

On the old Bell farm, about 6 mi south of St. John.

bnchief · 01-23-2017, 08:02 AM

I live about 30 miles from there. 3.6 it is not a model t so what difference does it make NONE. Brent you may well be right there were a lot of buicks and maxwells sold in this area i have seen them in pictures of towns where people would come to town for pictures.

marty in Ohio · 01-23-2017, 08:14 AM

I agree with bnchief! Maybe the car is not a Model A, but one of our friends has a question that seems to spark the curiosity of a lot of our other friends. It's good to see the opinions and fun to see the guesses that have been posted.
Sometimes we just need to lighten up.
Marty

jhowes · 01-23-2017, 09:21 AM

The picture is fuzzy and hard to see detail but to me the door bottoms are not rounded like the Buick shown.

Tom Wesenberg · 01-23-2017, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marty in Ohio

I agree with bnchief! Maybe the car is not a Model A, but one of our friends has a question that seems to spark the curiosity of a lot of our other friends. It's good to see the opinions and fun to see the guesses that have been posted.
Sometimes we just need to lighten up.
Marty

I've been trying, but taking off weight sure is tougher than putting it on.

bnchief · 01-23-2017, 11:32 AM

Don't we all have that problem.

katy · 01-24-2017, 06:41 PM

A lot of the cars back then used 30" wheels, so maybe using 30" for the diameter of the wheels would give you a size reference?

01-22-2017, 02:22 PM	#2
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: If not a T, what? I sent a copy of the photo to the boys at Langley, VA., and they said, while not knowing for sure what the marque of the car is, their detailed analysis of the car does show a 102 inch space between the front axle and the rear axle.

01-22-2017, 02:35 PM	#3
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,554	Re: If not a T, what? Stanley Steamer?

01-22-2017, 03:08 PM	#4
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,754	Re: If not a T, what? I was thinking the same thing because of the short hood. Bob

01-22-2017, 03:39 PM	#5
2manycars Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern CT Posts: 2,732	Re: If not a T, what? If it is a model T, then the photo is reversed, as the spare tire would block the only access to the front seat. __________________ Bill www.brauchauto.com

01-22-2017, 07:24 PM	#6
KGBnut Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southwestern Connecticut Posts: 931	Re: If not a T, what? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Wooden spokes and no spokes on the spare tire. Did the Model T ever have dismountable rims? 12 spoke rims. Also, is it just me or does that top extend way past the windshield? __________________ Style beats speed any day, and with a lot fewer tickets.

01-22-2017, 07:37 PM	#7
KGBnut Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southwestern Connecticut Posts: 931	Re: If not a T, what? I'm startin' to think Buick. Check out this one. Look at the line where the seat-backs meet the body, and also the cylinder on the running board. Scroll through the pictures. http://www.conceptcarz.com/valuation...-Model-25.aspx __________________ Style beats speed any day, and with a lot fewer tickets.

01-23-2017, 06:11 AM	#8
bnchief Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 252	Re: If not a T, what? Definitely not a t because of tire where driver gets in also the cannister on the runningboard is a carbide generator for the headlights so I would think it is around 1914 and has the two man top irons as well. I live in kansas where was this photo taken?

01-23-2017, 06:49 AM	#9
3.6rs Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgistan (formerly known as Belgium) Posts: 573	Re: If not a T, what? Should this post not be in the T forum ?

01-23-2017, 06:58 AM	#10
bnchief Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 252	Re: If not a T, what? Maybe but it is not a model t and a lot of model a guys have model t fords so they can help.

01-23-2017, 07:01 AM	#11
BRENT in 10-uh-C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 11,519	Re: If not a T, what? It is not a T or a Stanley, however the picture is too fuzzy to get a view of the rear fender detail, and the rear axle assy. My initial guess is that it is/was an EMF or Maxwell, or Overland from around 1912. Most of those cars used a 108" to 114" wheelbase. __________________ . BRENT in 10-uh-C . www.model-a-ford.com ...(...Finally Updated!! ) .

01-23-2017, 07:38 AM	#13
Walt Ebie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: East Canton, OH Posts: 168	Re: If not a T, what? On the old Bell farm, about 6 mi south of St. John.

01-23-2017, 08:02 AM	#14
bnchief Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 252	Re: If not a T, what? I live about 30 miles from there. 3.6 it is not a model t so what difference does it make NONE. Brent you may well be right there were a lot of buicks and maxwells sold in this area i have seen them in pictures of towns where people would come to town for pictures. Last edited by bnchief; 01-23-2017 at 08:12 AM.

01-23-2017, 08:14 AM	#15
marty in Ohio Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Elyria, Ohio Posts: 756	Re: If not a T, what? I agree with bnchief! Maybe the car is not a Model A, but one of our friends has a question that seems to spark the curiosity of a lot of our other friends. It's good to see the opinions and fun to see the guesses that have been posted. Sometimes we just need to lighten up. Marty

01-23-2017, 09:21 AM	#16
jhowes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: upstate NY near Mass border Posts: 789	Re: If not a T, what? The picture is fuzzy and hard to see detail but to me the door bottoms are not rounded like the Buick shown.

01-23-2017, 11:32 AM	#18
bnchief Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 252	Re: If not a T, what? Don't we all have that problem.

01-24-2017, 06:41 PM	#19
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,046	Re: If not a T, what? A lot of the cars back then used 30" wheels, so maybe using 30" for the diameter of the wheels would give you a size reference? __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!