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04-23-2017, 04:46 PM | #1 |
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VanPelt 47 Tranny Rebuild
Just wanted to share with everyone the great experience I've had so far with Mac VanPelt rebuilding my transmission that was long overdue for such.
Right from the start it has been first class service. He built a crate specially made for my transmission and sent it to me with instructions on how to install my tranny in the crate for return to him. UPS delivered and picked up. He then started dismantling by tranny and photographed each step of the way and emailed the pictures to me with descriptions of what I was looking at. This right here was my biggest problem - the first gear on the cluster gear worn so far he said "It's truly a wonder that one of the teeth did not part ways with the gear casting, as there is so little left of it." That damage began grinding through a giant half frozen mud puddle on Potash Road near Moab 4 years ago at maximum RPM in low gear. (Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWEHZQpuiwI). Here are Mac's thoughts about replacing the cluster gear: "Here is my thought on the cluster gear. You presently have a stock 28-24-18-14 tooth cluster gear, which most definitely needs replacement. This type uses the caged roller bearings inside. Ford came out with a comparable gear (same tooth count) for the 1949-50 Ford transmissions, which had a smaller bore and used the loose needle bearings. I like this gear for its more precise control of the cluster gear, especially under load. I have one NORS Borg Warner gear in stock of this type, and I would much prefer to use this in your transmission over the type originally used. This gives us a completely interchangeable gear (provided we use the appropriate tube and needles) for a more reliable cluster gear that handles the power better." I, of course, went along with his recommendation. Here's the NORS gear he put in with new needle bearings: He also replaced the first gear that was quite worn. Shifter shafts were fairly worn: So, he replaced those with NOS shafts: And cleaned up or replaced other shifting parts to look and work like new: Cleaned or replaced all of the other moving parts and put it all back together with all spaces strictly according to specs: And finished off with a new paint job: Even reinstalled the stock safety wires: I'm excited to get it back, hopefully this week, and get "On the Road Again".
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04-23-2017, 05:20 PM | #2 |
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Re: VanPelt 47 Tranny Rebuild
Looks like great work and keeping you in the "loop." It makes me want to pull my transmission and have Mac redo it before he runs out of those NOS parts. His knowledge is second to none with these old Ford transmissions.
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04-23-2017, 05:52 PM | #3 |
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Re: VanPelt 47 Tranny Rebuild
Once again,how lucky are we to suppliers like this to help keep our old rockets alive.
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04-23-2017, 06:02 PM | #4 |
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Wow, that's a very good blow by blow account of a rebuild, he does nice work.
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04-23-2017, 06:25 PM | #5 |
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04-23-2017, 06:52 PM | #6 |
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04-23-2017, 07:21 PM | #7 |
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That is some very amazing work. Can you imagine if even half of the people who repair things did work half that good and communicated half as well? That's quite something that that old 3 speed went to Alaska and back in that condition. It's even more amazing that Ol' Henry just did it like the rest of us were going to the grocery store.
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04-23-2017, 07:49 PM | #8 |
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Many thanks for giving us a walk-through of the process and what problems may be discovered along the way.
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04-23-2017, 08:28 PM | #9 |
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The pictures I shared were just a few of 48 that he sent me of everything he did.
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04-23-2017, 08:30 PM | #10 |
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Not long after I restored the car my foot slipped off the clutch in the driveway and shattered the first/reverse slider gear. But, had to drive over the mountain on a scenic drive so went anyway without any first or reverse gear. It was a little tricky starting up the steep climb in second after stopping for pictures. First and reverse gears are highly overrated. Much can be done without having any at all.
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04-23-2017, 08:37 PM | #11 |
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Looks to be a well done, well finished job, with great documentation. Did you feel that the cost was reasonable?
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Lest we forget, without Shelly, most of us would not be here. And thank you Ryan, for revvin' up The Barn Of course....Thanks for sharing Old Henry's innards with us!
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04-24-2017, 08:02 AM | #14 |
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Talk about customer service! Thanks for posting and thanks to MacVP for all that he does as well.
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04-24-2017, 08:10 AM | #15 |
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Mac gave the transmission in my 53 a complete going over . I really don't know how it was when it was new , but my gut feeling is it is better now than it has ever been.
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04-24-2017, 08:25 AM | #16 |
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For some that may not know it, Shelly was the original designer and owner of Ford Barn and ran it until Ryan took over.
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04-24-2017, 08:31 AM | #17 |
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04-24-2017, 08:59 AM | #18 |
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Looks like a great job.
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04-24-2017, 09:19 AM | #19 |
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I only see one problem in this rebuild. Now, it's too nice to put back in the car it would look great displayed on a shelf in a retro 1930's-40's Ford Parts Dept.
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04-24-2017, 09:43 AM | #20 |
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Re: VanPelt 47 Tranny Rebuild
The jury is still out on that one. So far, all I know is the cost of building the crate, shipping it to me and back, and the cost of the cluster gear. Nothing else.
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