08-30-2021, 11:33 PM | #21 |
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For many years I was against the "new fangled" dyna beads because...my theory here...I thought they would produce some bad ju-ju that would make hard to make a tube patch stick. But, the fact is they sell us such junk tubes now days I dont patch anything anymore, just buy a new tube. The tubes I just took out of my 52 jeep, tires dated 1951, are about an1/8" thick, must weigh 10 pounds, and look like new. I went tubeless on that project, but those tubes will go in the next pair of 750 16 hot rod tires I buy with no worries from me. 70 years old, soft nice real rubber
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08-31-2021, 12:16 AM | #22 |
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For 16" inner tubes, I use tractor tubes, these are heavy duty, have the correct large stem valve stems, and have worked very well for me fitted inside radial tires with dynabeads.
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08-31-2021, 12:45 AM | #23 |
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Good info as usual from Brian
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08-31-2021, 01:02 AM | #24 | |
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Thanks for the correction on the wide 5’s. I didn’t realize they were different. As for Dynabeads, I have used them on my 36 Ford and they work well. The wheels also look nice as there are no external weights on the wheel rim. Big trucks have been using them for many years. I also have the wide five wheel adapter and it works for balancing as you would expect. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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08-31-2021, 02:48 AM | #25 |
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I had my wheels trued first ,then used counteract beads. Smooth ride . These old wheels got pounded on back in the day.
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08-31-2021, 03:27 PM | #26 |
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08-31-2021, 11:54 PM | #27 | |
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09-01-2021, 12:17 AM | #28 |
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I use the speedway adapter and the tapered lugs they sell now. That'll at least get you on the machine. Have one hanging on the wall. It'll get it done, you can add beads later but I run tubes soooo.
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09-02-2021, 07:46 PM | #29 |
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I was the perpetual sceptic about balance beads used them as a last resort now wont do it any other way THEY WORK and they balance the whole rotating assembly [wheel /hub/drum] whats more if you rotate your wheels there is no need to rebalance as its done automatically by the beads......Yes they can be an absolute pain to install but worth it
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09-02-2021, 08:30 PM | #30 |
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I just took my drums along with my wheel and tire and got the whole 9 yards balanced at the same time, then I painted the stud and marked the wheel where it could be put back in the proper spot if removing the wheel became necessary. Worded for me.
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09-03-2021, 06:28 AM | #31 |
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No one mentioned old school balancing.
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09-03-2021, 06:40 AM | #32 |
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Hey. I have one of those. Just need time to figure it out.
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09-03-2021, 09:41 AM | #33 |
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I use Dyna beads in all my tires, it balances the tire thru the life of the tire. I started using them when I couldn't get the shimmy out of the front wheel on my 1998 HD heritage springer. I took it to the dealer had them replace front shock, rocker bushings, goose neck bearings, and the wheels trued and still had a shimmy between 35 and 40 mph. and every front tire I put on the bike would cup shortly after mounting, and the shimmy would get worse till I replaced the tire, I removed the weights installed the Dyna beads and no more shimmy and the tires stopped cupping. Now I run all my tires with them. They are reusable just tell the tire shop they are in the tire and have them transfer them to your new tires. As has been stated they have been used in trucks for years.
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09-03-2021, 11:06 AM | #34 |
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I am starting to become a believer.
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09-03-2021, 11:27 AM | #35 |
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There is one tire shop that I know of here locally that still has a spin balancer. I am thinking that would work fine on a wide five wheel. My father used to swear by those things saying "they balance your tire, wheel and brake drum all at the same time". Most people these days don't even know what they are. You will find them though in shops that work on big trucks as that is perhaps the easiest way to balance a big truck tire.
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09-03-2021, 03:44 PM | #36 |
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We balance the drum first, of course. The difference between drums has been minor, and most older cars are not run fast enough to matter. I have an overdrive in my '47 convertible, and I can keep up with hiway traffic with no problem. The only thing I had to solve was an "out of round" new tire. If the tire hops or wobbles while balancing, check for that problem. One out of four from a good dealer had the problem, and was replaced. The vendor tried to blame it on a bent wheel, which was not the cause.
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09-03-2021, 10:29 PM | #38 |
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yup spin balancer's do work and work well if you can find one and the operator knows what the are doing but if you remove the wheel it must go back in the same spot so you cant rotate and keep the balance where with beads it doesn't matter FYI there is a mark on the hub/drum assembly that is suppose to line up with the valve stem [came to light on a previous post on here ]
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09-03-2021, 11:07 PM | #39 |
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How does the beads work if you run bias ply and tubes?
Exactly the same; the tire construction has no effect on the centrifigal force imposed once the assembly is running, the beads don't care, they'll just automatically go to the light side
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09-03-2021, 11:10 PM | #40 |
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So you run the beads inside the tire and outside the tube? That works and can be used with tubes? I am honestly asking, I don't know.
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