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Old 12-07-2012, 09:41 PM   #1
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Exclamation Simmons Carburetor

Just restoring a couple of Zenith carbs, and in the cuboard was this Simmons carb. Bottom was "zenith 1" and top the letter"S". A brass
plate was pinned to the top stating the following:Simmons Carberator,
The Simmons Mfg. Company, Oh. Pat. 1815650. The float valve is not a zenith and the butterfly is steel . Any comments appreciated.
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:44 AM   #2
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I came across a simmons top casting for a 31 indented firewall that was mounted on a standard Zenith bottom casting.The Simmons casting is similar to the Zenith side bowl casting. The Simmons is said to be a superior carburetor to the Zenith. I restored the hybrid carburetor and it workd fine on my late 31 Victoria, however, I saw no difference than a standard side bowl Zenith. Without a bottom Simmons casting I believe you must lose something as there must be extra pasageways on the bottom casting that line up with the extra pasageways in the top casting. I have no idea what they are for, but they must be there for a purpose.

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Old 12-08-2012, 01:29 AM   #3
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Could it be for an air balance tube? I think that's what it called.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:57 AM   #4
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Exactly what I was thinking. Rod
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:20 AM   #5
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This may be a helpful thread;

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57988
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:57 AM   #6
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If a Zenith lower casting is used with a Simmons upper casting you will lose the high speed feature of the Simmons carb. . The Simmons lower casting has an open passageway to the float bowl. The Simmons carburetor has a passage in the upper casting that aligns with the passage in the lower casting. Unlike the model B Zenith, the Simmons doesn't have the jet in the upper casting, but draws through the open upper and lower passageways. Like the model B carbs, the Simmons has a slotted throttle shaft. When the slot in the throttle shaft aligns with the open passage to the float bowl, vacume draws raw gas from the float bowl and works similar to the model B carb.
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:35 PM   #7
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I would like to buy a SIMMONS Side Bowl Carburetor.

Not only for the performance but my wife's maiden name is Simmons.

It would make a good pair.

Please email me direct at: [email protected]
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:26 PM   #8
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I have an unrestored Simmons carb on the shelf. I will rebuild it some day, but for now am trying to build a good model B carb from 3.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:21 PM   #9
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Hey Guys, great info on the simmons carb. I shure would like to see some pics of one with the Simmons bottom bowl.
Thanks . GRANT
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:39 PM   #10
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I would like to buy a SIMMONS Side Bowl Carburetor.

Not only for the performance but my wife's maiden name is Simmons.

It would make a good pair.

Please email me direct at: [email protected]

You are such a romantic!!!
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:41 PM   #11
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You are such a romantic!!!
Well what about me, Mike?
I named MINERVA after a far away relative in Pat's family tree!! Skipped my mother-in-law, she had a FUNNY name. Bill W.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:43 AM   #12
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Hey Guys, great info on the simmons carb. I shure would like to see some pics of one with the Simmons bottom bowl.
Thanks . GRANT
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:17 PM   #13
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:44 PM   #14
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Here is a pic of one of my Simmons alloy carbs. Check the link that Mike V posted above for more pics and info.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:59 PM   #15
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In a summer 1931 Western Auto catalog I have they are called the "Duplex Improved Carburetor"

Does someone have a Western or Other era catalog that shows the side bowl one.

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Old 12-14-2012, 06:33 PM   #16
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I have an alloy version with Wizard improved on the brass name plate. I don't have a side bowl version. I'll have Deb make some more pictures and post them later.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:40 PM   #17
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Hi,
i jut noticed the post on the simmons carb. During the last several years i have collected a total seven of simons carbs. Five of them are all different the other two are duplicates. I havn,t researched them so here are a few questions

how mainy different types of simmons did they make for model a,s

are there any publications ever printed on simmons


i noticed on page 79 of the book those wonderful unautherized accessories for the model a ford. Also they made acessories for .
Model t,s.

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Old 12-20-2012, 08:59 AM   #18
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Some nice picture of a Simmons Head and Manifold would be great also
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:49 AM   #19
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this is for 2many cars
i have an excellent 32 carb i would trade
if you would send Joop info on your simmons
if joop likes the simmons i would just trade straight across
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:04 AM   #20
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What A great Deal!

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