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ModelAHawaii · 04-13-2022, 12:48 PM

HI,

Yesterday I removed the rear axle from my 29 pickup. All went well with the one exception. The shackles on both axle sides didn't want to slide out. After an hour of pounding they came out. (yes i had a spring spreader on it.)

The rear spring is still installed in the bed. The entire axle assembly is out. I made an axle dolly, however the pickup is sitting to low on the jack stands. I want to lift the rear of the pickup to move the jack stand up a few notches.

Any suggestions on how to lift the rear of the pickup without the rear axle attached? (So I can add more clearance to slide the axle back under.) Currently, I can't clear the drums under the rear fenders. Even if I angle the axle with the dolly.

Thank you.

jwmckenzie · 04-13-2022, 01:30 PM

I would get my hi-lift jack out, put it on the channel below the tailgate and jack from the back of the bed. Watch the gap between the front of the bed and back of cab. If the mounting bolts are loose you will have to tighten them up. Make sure the front wheels can't roll forward.

Others may have a safer way.

Hi-lift jack:

https://www.amazon.com/Hi-Lift-Jack-...455348246&th=1

Patrick L. · 04-13-2022, 01:39 PM

I'll assume the frame is on jack stands. Why not just jack each side enough to raise the stand one notch at a time until you get it high enough ? Seems like you may only need a couple notches.

I guess I'm not sure why it won't go back under when it appears it came out. But, no matter. It needs to go back together whatever it takes.

jerrytocci · 04-13-2022, 02:09 PM

Are the wheels on the axel ? If so, remove them and put the rear end on dollies

ronn · 04-13-2022, 02:28 PM

put a 4 x 4 across the back frame and jack it up

Y-Blockhead · 04-13-2022, 02:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ronn

put a 4 x 4 across the back frame and jack it up

2X on the 4X.

katy · 04-14-2022, 10:04 AM

Just jack up under the centre of the rear spring.

bavArian · 04-14-2022, 11:16 AM

Yup, wheels off and slide the axle out from the car with square timber.

Patrick L. · 04-14-2022, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katy

Just jack up under the centre of the rear spring.

That'll work.

rotorwrench · 04-14-2022, 02:06 PM

It's sometimes easier to unbolt the spring from the crossmember. It just depends on what the task requires.

Keep several bottle jacks handy with plenty of cribbing to get to the needed height. There is always something in the middle that makes it hard to use one jack.

nkaminar · 04-14-2022, 03:09 PM

Can you rig a winch to the rafters and then use a sling under the car to lift it?

Or, can you slide the rear end horizontally under the car to clear the fenders and then lift it to move it forward into place? It sounds like you have already tried that.

Or, get some of your big bruddahs to help.

Big hammer · 04-14-2022, 05:27 PM

Take the front wheels off, lower the front end down.

fordcragar · 04-14-2022, 07:42 PM

I would use a 4x4 on the frame behind the transmission, the a floor jack to lift to rear of the truck. With the engine and transmission in place, there would be enough weight on the front of the truck to hold that end down. If not, move the 4x4 and jack farther back on the frame.

Bill G · 04-14-2022, 09:54 PM

Get about 4 teen-agers, and on the count of three....

Patrick L. · 04-15-2022, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill g

get about 4 teen-agers, and on the count of three....

:d:d:d:d:d:d

rotorwrench · 04-15-2022, 09:09 AM

With radius rods and torque tube it makes it limited on where two jacks can be placed on the frame and still be able to wheel the rear axle out from under the vehicle. Just in front of the rear running board brackets seems to be the best point for straight up jacking. The complete rear axle it a pretty good chunk of the weight rear of the fore & aft center line of the car. Lifting the body & frame after the spring is detached reduces the weight on the jacks a good bit. A person can jack it farther aft but the radius rods would have to be removed to roll the rear drive assembly out.

To use an overhead hoist, some form of a lifting adapter would have to be fabricated to clear the running boards and still lift from the frame rails. A spreader would likely have to be used to work over the car with lift straps, cables, etc to clear the body & top.

A lot depends on how far a person is willing to go to set it up in a way that will work for most applications. Not a lot of folks have a post lift in their shop. Even with a post lift a person may need height adjustable lifting pads to clear the running boards. A floor jack on each side might be another alternative.

john in illinois · 04-15-2022, 04:30 PM

I have my T sitting on this square tubing. I am sure I could jack it higher.
I would use two jacks.

John

04-13-2022, 12:48 PM	#1
ModelAHawaii Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 14	How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? HI, Yesterday I removed the rear axle from my 29 pickup. All went well with the one exception. The shackles on both axle sides didn't want to slide out. After an hour of pounding they came out. (yes i had a spring spreader on it.) The rear spring is still installed in the bed. The entire axle assembly is out. I made an axle dolly, however the pickup is sitting to low on the jack stands. I want to lift the rear of the pickup to move the jack stand up a few notches. Any suggestions on how to lift the rear of the pickup without the rear axle attached? (So I can add more clearance to slide the axle back under.) Currently, I can't clear the drums under the rear fenders. Even if I angle the axle with the dolly. Thank you.

04-13-2022, 01:30 PM	#2
jwmckenzie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 213	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? I would get my hi-lift jack out, put it on the channel below the tailgate and jack from the back of the bed. Watch the gap between the front of the bed and back of cab. If the mounting bolts are loose you will have to tighten them up. Make sure the front wheels can't roll forward. Others may have a safer way. Hi-lift jack: https://www.amazon.com/Hi-Lift-Jack-...455348246&th=1

04-13-2022, 01:39 PM	#3
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? I'll assume the frame is on jack stands. Why not just jack each side enough to raise the stand one notch at a time until you get it high enough ? Seems like you may only need a couple notches. I guess I'm not sure why it won't go back under when it appears it came out. But, no matter. It needs to go back together whatever it takes. Last edited by Patrick L.; 04-14-2022 at 01:34 PM.

04-13-2022, 02:09 PM	#4
jerrytocci Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 235	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? Are the wheels on the axel ? If so, remove them and put the rear end on dollies

04-13-2022, 02:28 PM	#5
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,796	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? put a 4 x 4 across the back frame and jack it up

04-14-2022, 10:04 AM	#7
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,046	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? Just jack up under the centre of the rear spring. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

04-14-2022, 11:16 AM	#8
bavArian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 215	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? Yup, wheels off and slide the axle out from the car with square timber.

04-14-2022, 02:06 PM	#10
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,440	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? It's sometimes easier to unbolt the spring from the crossmember. It just depends on what the task requires. Keep several bottle jacks handy with plenty of cribbing to get to the needed height. There is always something in the middle that makes it hard to use one jack. Last edited by rotorwrench; 04-14-2022 at 06:38 PM.

04-14-2022, 03:09 PM	#11
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,904	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? Can you rig a winch to the rafters and then use a sling under the car to lift it? Or, can you slide the rear end horizontally under the car to clear the fenders and then lift it to move it forward into place? It sounds like you have already tried that. Or, get some of your big bruddahs to help. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past. Last edited by nkaminar; 04-14-2022 at 03:22 PM.

04-14-2022, 05:27 PM	#12
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? Take the front wheels off, lower the front end down. __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

04-14-2022, 07:42 PM	#13
fordcragar Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 479	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? I would use a 4x4 on the frame behind the transmission, the a floor jack to lift to rear of the truck. With the engine and transmission in place, there would be enough weight on the front of the truck to hold that end down. If not, move the 4x4 and jack farther back on the frame.

04-14-2022, 09:54 PM	#14
Bill G Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 1,045	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? Get about 4 teen-agers, and on the count of three....

04-15-2022, 09:09 AM	#16
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,440	Re: How can I jack up the pickup after the rear axle is removed??? With radius rods and torque tube it makes it limited on where two jacks can be placed on the frame and still be able to wheel the rear axle out from under the vehicle. Just in front of the rear running board brackets seems to be the best point for straight up jacking. The complete rear axle it a pretty good chunk of the weight rear of the fore & aft center line of the car. Lifting the body & frame after the spring is detached reduces the weight on the jacks a good bit. A person can jack it farther aft but the radius rods would have to be removed to roll the rear drive assembly out. To use an overhead hoist, some form of a lifting adapter would have to be fabricated to clear the running boards and still lift from the frame rails. A spreader would likely have to be used to work over the car with lift straps, cables, etc to clear the body & top. A lot depends on how far a person is willing to go to set it up in a way that will work for most applications. Not a lot of folks have a post lift in their shop. Even with a post lift a person may need height adjustable lifting pads to clear the running boards. A floor jack on each side might be another alternative.