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2935ford · 10-14-2015, 05:55 PM

I wasn't expecting this until tomorrow or Friday......but.......here it is.

A '29 Sport Coupe that needs some attention.
It belongs to a friend of mine and it has had little attention since he has such a busy schedule.

The plan is to get it back to a safe running and driving vehicle.
So we will go through the whole car to get it that way.

Does the fun ever stop?

Ed Saniewski · 10-14-2015, 06:17 PM

I'll bet that paint shines up real nice under all that dust.

Mitch//pa · 10-14-2015, 06:17 PM

u lucky dog
whats the history?

2935ford · 10-14-2015, 06:42 PM

Well, this is just a work project as the vehicle is still his.

I have no history on it but my friend purchased it about a year and a half ago.
I saw it advertised then but I was not in a position to bag it for myself.
So, I get to get her road worthy.

mshmodela · 10-14-2015, 06:52 PM

Nice, looks like a solid car...

2935ford · 10-14-2015, 06:53 PM

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We are hoping but you never know what you'll discover.

Brian SATX · 10-14-2015, 09:46 PM

The step plate on the fender looks low and seems to have a shim. Is that the pic or is it a little different?

SeaSlugs · 10-14-2015, 10:01 PM

id push it back outside and give it a good wash and see how she looks. I bet it will shine up really well.

burner31 · 10-15-2015, 12:58 AM

Sweet, make sure you give it a very good test drive after your done and before you give it back, say maybe, two/three thousand miles, you know...just to be sure.
This could take a while.

Dodge · 10-15-2015, 01:05 AM

More pictures please, looks great good luck.

2935ford · 10-15-2015, 06:10 AM

Yes, I to noticed the step plate. Not sure yet what that is all about.

It certainly does need a good bath!

I agree a few thousand test miles outta do it!

As we go through this.....I'm real good at getting lots of pics.

Mitch//pa · 10-15-2015, 06:31 AM

good for your friend (the owner of the car) for wanting to go through the paces to check over the entire car mechanically before using it. that seems to be a rarity as many of the new owner posts i read just get in them and go, then start posting all their issues and problems. many dont even check the flluids

Steve_Mack_CT · 10-15-2015, 07:13 AM

Enjoy the project. Wake up and clean up seems to be more common than restoration nowadays, and still a rewarding experience.

2935ford · 10-15-2015, 07:49 AM

Thanks. It is going to be fun for sure.

To my knowledge this is a Canadian built car and the use of Robertson screws leads me to believe this.

A few more pics.
The gas in the bowl sure is ugly. A recommendation to pull it and flush it and seal it.
Nice set of wheels and tires to go on it.
Powerhouse gen.......e brake above the shifter........
It was running when he bought it but he put a different carb and distrib on it thinking it would help and it never started after that.

Little of this and a little of that to get her road ready.

Tom Wesenberg · 10-15-2015, 08:37 AM

It even has the correct Canadian powerhouse.
Notice the larger diameter and tapered edge down to the rear cover.

2935ford · 10-15-2015, 09:08 AM

Thanks. Did not notice that.

d.j. moordigian · 10-15-2015, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2935ford

I wasn't expecting this until tomorrow or Friday......but.......here it is.

A '29 Sport Coupe that needs some attention.
It belongs to a friend of mine and it has had little attention since he has such a busy schedule.

The plan is to get it back to a safe running and driving vehicle.
So we will go through the whole car to get it that way.

Does the fun ever stop?

How about a close up photo(s) of the step plate on the RR fender, please.
Thanks..

2935ford · 10-15-2015, 11:15 AM

Here ya go.

2935ford · 10-15-2015, 11:19 AM

A little clean up of the exterior.........washing won't help the poor done in paint job.

Big hammer · 10-15-2015, 02:02 PM

Before and after in person don't done the other side :-)
Looking good !!!

RUNNERBUN · 10-15-2015, 07:05 PM

Wow, can't wait to see a picture of the car with those new wheels and White Walls on. It will look fantastic.
Have fun.

2935ford · 10-15-2015, 07:23 PM

I think so to.
We will be hard at it tomorrow getting the drums, brakes and rods squared away.

RUNNERBUN · 10-16-2015, 07:40 AM

The water pump fan looks like it could be an original pressed steel type. Be sure to check it for any evidence of cracks developing or better still just replace it with a solid aluminium one.

2935ford · 10-16-2015, 11:14 AM

Thanks. It was cracked and some welding done to it....new aluminum has been ordered.

2935ford · 10-16-2015, 04:00 PM

Well, here we go.
Got all the wheels off. Took the drums off....they will all need to be replaced. Owner will be purchasing all new drums and hubs. Seems a normal "back in the day" process was if the lug bolts came lose.....you just weld them in place. The brake shoe lining will also need to be replaced.
Got the gas tank out and off to be cleaned and coated.
Took the carb off and found debris in there. Cleaned that out.
Pulled the fan to be replaced by and aluminum one and to get a new upper rad hose.
Drained the oil. Checked the fluids in the trans (pretty gooey stuff) and rear axle which looks good. Rear axle seals appear to be holding.
Cleaned and repacked the front wheel bearings.
Checked all the brake rods.
Need a few pills for the front brake rod to reposition the actuator to the 15 degree forward.
All in all not a bad days work.

SeaSlugs · 10-16-2015, 04:13 PM

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sounds like you made great headway!

2935ford · 10-16-2015, 04:16 PM

Thanks. We think so to. The owner was pleased.

Domino · 10-16-2015, 04:26 PM

Great congrats! Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

2935ford · 10-16-2015, 04:28 PM

We are!

2935ford · 10-23-2015, 12:04 PM

Ok
Since we work on this one day a week for a few hours the updates will reflect this.

We now have the tank cleaned and back in. The wiring is being sorted out. We now have all the shoes stripped of the old linings and the backing plates are ready to be cleaned. PO had the speedo cable fed the wrong way since they had the gear on the torque tube facing the wrong direction.

Good progress.

New parts to be ordered/purchased are the brake rollers/pins, adjusting shafts/pins, battery cables, sediment bulb assembly and headlight socket assemblies.

2935ford · 12-01-2015, 08:10 PM

Sorry for the long delay but we are back.

Finished up just about everything we intend to do to the car.
Put on the new 4 blade fan, all the brakes shoes and new drums are on and adjusted.
Trans is just loaded with what looks like molasses only thicker. Used some ATF in it.

Sorted out the wiring and in the process fried the pop out. We will "modernize" it some by using a wire and just the casing screwed into the distrib then get the later two pole switch wired to it. Headlights wired and working.
Horn, well a different story. The original harness and light switch body did not allow for hi beam. He had a newer body so we switched just the top half....that allowed the lights to function properly but now the horn rod is to short!

Put gas in the tank and a couple of turns and she fired. Took it off the roll dollies and backed it out of the garage. A few carb adjustments and we let it idle for about 15 minutes. No smoke, no leaks, just a pretty good running little A.
After the warm up pulled the trans drain plug but not much of the molasses came out. The ATF did so we replaced it with 600w oil. It's going to take some time and some runs and oil changes for that trans.

A few things to tidy up and it's back to the customer.

That was fun!

burner31 · 12-02-2015, 01:33 AM

Thats great new...good job.
Now all you have to do is give your address and I'll be over to pick her up....he, he, he

2935ford · 12-02-2015, 05:06 AM

Keith thanks
......for you, that would be a long drive!

burner31 · 12-02-2015, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2935ford

Keith thanks
......for you, that would be a long drive!

And at 45 MPH I'd be seeing you in the Spring

Gumpy · 12-02-2015, 10:35 AM

Love to see an old "A" come back to life thks for sharing this! gump

2935ford · 12-02-2015, 02:50 PM

Thanks all......it was fun to work on it and get 'er back on the road.

Indiana A. Lover · 12-02-2015, 08:23 PM

I really enjoyed your post on this fine looking A. You do such fine work, I wish I could look over your shoulder as you do the back brakes. The PO of my 29 A really messed my rear brakes up. But I bought the Vol. 1 and am reading it, and trying to understand how mechanical brakes work. Well I have rambled on long enough, But let me say Well Done Sir! Don in N. W. Indiana

2935ford · 12-03-2015, 02:55 AM

Don, thank you.

There is a lot to mechanical brakes but just brake (pardon the pun) it down into small portions to work on.
If you have good original parts to work with, life is a whole lot easier that's for sure.
If not try to source them.

Do you have a Model A group in your are that may lend a hand?

2935ford · 12-05-2015, 04:50 PM

Ok
To finish this thread off......here's a You T vid of the owner picking it up.
He had a rollback coming right behind him as he took it for a little putt.

A little more tuning and she'll be off and running for next season!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2yK...ature=youtu.be

burner31 · 12-05-2015, 04:54 PM

Too cool, and I'm not just saying that because of the snow.

2935ford · 12-05-2015, 05:40 PM

Ya, we're in for it now!

10-14-2015, 05:55 PM	#1
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Suprise Arrival I wasn't expecting this until tomorrow or Friday......but.......here it is. A '29 Sport Coupe that needs some attention. It belongs to a friend of mine and it has had little attention since he has such a busy schedule. The plan is to get it back to a safe running and driving vehicle. So we will go through the whole car to get it that way. Does the fun ever stop? Last edited by 2935ford; 06-30-2020 at 08:22 AM.

10-14-2015, 06:17 PM	#2
Ed Saniewski Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Denville NJ Posts: 964	Re: Suprise Arrival I'll bet that paint shines up real nice under all that dust. __________________ Model A Ford Club of New Jersey http://www.mafcnj.org Model A Pick Up Owners and Enthusiasts http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/group.php?groupid=5

10-14-2015, 06:17 PM	#3
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Suprise Arrival u lucky dog whats the history?

10-14-2015, 06:42 PM	#4
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Well, this is just a work project as the vehicle is still his. I have no history on it but my friend purchased it about a year and a half ago. I saw it advertised then but I was not in a position to bag it for myself. So, I get to get her road worthy.

10-14-2015, 06:52 PM	#5
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: Suprise Arrival Nice, looks like a solid car... __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

10-14-2015, 06:53 PM	#6
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) We are hoping but you never know what you'll discover. Last edited by 2935ford; 10-14-2015 at 07:09 PM.

10-14-2015, 09:46 PM	#7
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 821	Re: Suprise Arrival The step plate on the fender looks low and seems to have a shim. Is that the pic or is it a little different? __________________ Brian SATX

10-14-2015, 10:01 PM	#8
SeaSlugs Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central, IL Posts: 3,968	Re: Suprise Arrival id push it back outside and give it a good wash and see how she looks. I bet it will shine up really well. __________________ 1929 Model AA - Need long splash aprons!

10-15-2015, 12:58 AM	#9
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Re: Suprise Arrival Sweet, make sure you give it a very good test drive after your done and before you give it back, say maybe, two/three thousand miles, you know...just to be sure. This could take a while. __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B

10-15-2015, 01:05 AM	#10
Dodge Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sonoma, CA. Posts: 1,497	Re: Suprise Arrival More pictures please, looks great good luck.

10-15-2015, 06:10 AM	#11
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Yes, I to noticed the step plate. Not sure yet what that is all about. It certainly does need a good bath! I agree a few thousand test miles outta do it! As we go through this.....I'm real good at getting lots of pics.

10-15-2015, 06:31 AM	#12
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Suprise Arrival good for your friend (the owner of the car) for wanting to go through the paces to check over the entire car mechanically before using it. that seems to be a rarity as many of the new owner posts i read just get in them and go, then start posting all their issues and problems. many dont even check the flluids

10-15-2015, 07:13 AM	#13
Steve_Mack_CT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Central CT Posts: 348	Re: Suprise Arrival Enjoy the project. Wake up and clean up seems to be more common than restoration nowadays, and still a rewarding experience. __________________ Steve 1930 Model A Roadster

10-15-2015, 07:49 AM	#14
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Thanks. It is going to be fun for sure. To my knowledge this is a Canadian built car and the use of Robertson screws leads me to believe this. A few more pics. The gas in the bowl sure is ugly. A recommendation to pull it and flush it and seal it. Nice set of wheels and tires to go on it. Powerhouse gen.......e brake above the shifter........ It was running when he bought it but he put a different carb and distrib on it thinking it would help and it never started after that. Little of this and a little of that to get her road ready. Last edited by 2935ford; 06-30-2020 at 08:22 AM.

10-15-2015, 08:37 AM	#15
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Suprise Arrival It even has the correct Canadian powerhouse. Notice the larger diameter and tapered edge down to the rear cover.

10-15-2015, 09:08 AM	#16
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Thanks. Did not notice that.

10-15-2015, 11:15 AM	#18
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Here ya go. Last edited by 2935ford; 06-30-2020 at 08:22 AM.

10-15-2015, 11:19 AM	#19
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival A little clean up of the exterior.........washing won't help the poor done in paint job. Last edited by 2935ford; 06-30-2020 at 08:22 AM.

10-15-2015, 02:02 PM	#20
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Suprise Arrival Before and after in person don't done the other side :-) Looking good !!!

10-15-2015, 07:05 PM	#21
RUNNERBUN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 640	Re: Suprise Arrival Wow, can't wait to see a picture of the car with those new wheels and White Walls on. It will look fantastic. Have fun. __________________ Adjust your points with gentle blows of a 2 pound hammer

10-15-2015, 07:23 PM	#22
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival I think so to. We will be hard at it tomorrow getting the drums, brakes and rods squared away.

10-16-2015, 07:40 AM	#23
RUNNERBUN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 640	Re: Suprise Arrival The water pump fan looks like it could be an original pressed steel type. Be sure to check it for any evidence of cracks developing or better still just replace it with a solid aluminium one. __________________ Adjust your points with gentle blows of a 2 pound hammer

10-16-2015, 11:14 AM	#24
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Thanks. It was cracked and some welding done to it....new aluminum has been ordered.

10-16-2015, 04:00 PM	#25
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Well, here we go. Got all the wheels off. Took the drums off....they will all need to be replaced. Owner will be purchasing all new drums and hubs. Seems a normal "back in the day" process was if the lug bolts came lose.....you just weld them in place. The brake shoe lining will also need to be replaced. Got the gas tank out and off to be cleaned and coated. Took the carb off and found debris in there. Cleaned that out. Pulled the fan to be replaced by and aluminum one and to get a new upper rad hose. Drained the oil. Checked the fluids in the trans (pretty gooey stuff) and rear axle which looks good. Rear axle seals appear to be holding. Cleaned and repacked the front wheel bearings. Checked all the brake rods. Need a few pills for the front brake rod to reposition the actuator to the 15 degree forward. All in all not a bad days work. Last edited by 2935ford; 06-30-2020 at 08:22 AM.

10-16-2015, 04:13 PM	#26
SeaSlugs Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central, IL Posts: 3,968	Re: Suprise Arrival Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) sounds like you made great headway! __________________ 1929 Model AA - Need long splash aprons!

10-16-2015, 04:16 PM	#27
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Thanks. We think so to. The owner was pleased.

10-16-2015, 04:26 PM	#28
Domino Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 412	Re: Suprise Arrival Great congrats! Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

10-16-2015, 04:28 PM	#29
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival We are!

10-23-2015, 12:04 PM	#30
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Ok Since we work on this one day a week for a few hours the updates will reflect this. We now have the tank cleaned and back in. The wiring is being sorted out. We now have all the shoes stripped of the old linings and the backing plates are ready to be cleaned. PO had the speedo cable fed the wrong way since they had the gear on the torque tube facing the wrong direction. Good progress. New parts to be ordered/purchased are the brake rollers/pins, adjusting shafts/pins, battery cables, sediment bulb assembly and headlight socket assemblies. Last edited by 2935ford; 06-30-2020 at 08:22 AM.

12-01-2015, 08:10 PM	#31
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Sorry for the long delay but we are back. Finished up just about everything we intend to do to the car. Put on the new 4 blade fan, all the brakes shoes and new drums are on and adjusted. Trans is just loaded with what looks like molasses only thicker. Used some ATF in it. Sorted out the wiring and in the process fried the pop out. We will "modernize" it some by using a wire and just the casing screwed into the distrib then get the later two pole switch wired to it. Headlights wired and working. Horn, well a different story. The original harness and light switch body did not allow for hi beam. He had a newer body so we switched just the top half....that allowed the lights to function properly but now the horn rod is to short! Put gas in the tank and a couple of turns and she fired. Took it off the roll dollies and backed it out of the garage. A few carb adjustments and we let it idle for about 15 minutes. No smoke, no leaks, just a pretty good running little A. After the warm up pulled the trans drain plug but not much of the molasses came out. The ATF did so we replaced it with 600w oil. It's going to take some time and some runs and oil changes for that trans. A few things to tidy up and it's back to the customer. That was fun! Last edited by 2935ford; 06-30-2020 at 08:22 AM.

12-02-2015, 05:06 AM	#33
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Keith thanks ......for you, that would be a long drive!

12-02-2015, 10:35 AM	#35
Gumpy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sf bay area Posts: 1,464	Re: Suprise Arrival *Love to see an old "A" come back to life thks for sharing this! gump* __________________ "I believe God is managing affairs and that He doesn't need any advice from me. With God in Charge, I believe everything will work out for the best in the end. So what is there to worry about". Quote by Henry Ford

12-02-2015, 02:50 PM	#36
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Thanks all......it was fun to work on it and get 'er back on the road.

12-02-2015, 08:23 PM	#37
Indiana A. Lover Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Brook, Indiana Posts: 214	Re: Suprise Arrival I really enjoyed your post on this fine looking A. You do such fine work, I wish I could look over your shoulder as you do the back brakes. The PO of my 29 A really messed my rear brakes up. But I bought the Vol. 1 and am reading it, and trying to understand how mechanical brakes work. Well I have rambled on long enough, But let me say Well Done Sir! Don in N. W. Indiana

12-03-2015, 02:55 AM	#38
2935ford Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 1,013	Re: Suprise Arrival Don, thank you. There is a lot to mechanical brakes but just brake (pardon the pun) it down into small portions to work on. If you have good original parts to work with, life is a whole lot easier that's for sure. If not try to source them. Do you have a Model A group in your are that may lend a hand?