Yes, times they are a changing

[rockfla]

*****SOLD*****
Mecums aution Kissimmee $28,000

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by rockfla

*****SOLD*****
Mecums aution Kissimmee $28,000

[Seth Swoboda]

WOW. I could afford that.

[19Fordy]

Is it because of the color?

[TJ]

The question, was it an all steel car?

[Joe B.]

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Here's the listing. I'm not an expert on '35's, but pictures show some flaws. Peeling paint, etc. Price listed as $30,800. https://www.mecum.com/lots/1101832/1...aa_id=497875-0

[DavidG]

The exterior color is more or less correct for '35, unfortunately the interior and rumble seat upholstery color is way off the original. It's more like that for a '36 roadster.


We know nothing of the body, especially the floor which is a weak sport in '35s and '36s, often rusted out and patched up. On the other hand, perhaps it was a bargain.

[mercman from oz]

1935 Ford Roadster sold for $30,800 - Very nice

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by DavidG

The exterior color is more or less correct for '35, unfortunately the interior and rumble seat upholstery color is way off the original. It's more like that for a '36 roadster.


We know nothing of the body, especially the floor which is a weak sport in '35s and '36s, often rusted out and patched up. On the other hand, perhaps it was a bargain.

From what I am hearing it was more the “condition”. I heard it did not show very well “in person”, very orange peely paint, etc etc so sounds as if water found its correct level!!!

[GB SISSON]

I watched random parts of that auction yesterday. Sat through a few hours of extremely valuable muscle cars that put me to sleep. I'd rather own that '35 than a garage full of '70s muscle'. What's wrong with people?

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by rockfla

From what I am hearing it was more the “condition”. I heard it did not show very well “in person”, very orange peely paint, etc etc so sounds as if water found its correct level!!!

Sounds exactly like how I like them. Damn, a '35/'36 roadster is going to be my next purchase. I need to keep an eye out for these types of deals.

[Angledrive]

I think the 36 Roadster sold at 48K

[Gene1949]

Just my .02¢ What I have noticed about our hobby is a generational downturn in values. When I started putting the 49 together in the 80s model A's and T's were going for premium money. Now it's pretty hard to give them away relatively speaking.
I think the same is going to happen as our generations get older. The 30s cars are starting to become more affordable, the 40s are becoming cheaper and so on eventually into the muscle cars.
Watching the Meecham auctions there is no way many of those cars could be put together for the price they're bringing over the auction block.
My nephew is putting together a 1968 Hellcharger. Found his high school car and bought a low mile wreak Hellcat. He figures he will be into it in the $150 to $170 K range.
I saw one cross the auction block 2 weeks ago for about $110,000. And it looked like a well turned out restorod.

[mrtexas]

30/40s cars are a very small percentage of Mecum sales.

This one, older restoration, dented fender, meh paint, period correct upholstery

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by DavidG

The exterior color is more or less correct for '35, unfortunately the interior and rumble seat upholstery color is way off the original. It's more like that for a '36 roadster.


We know nothing of the body, especially the floor which is a weak sport in '35s and '36s, often rusted out and patched up. On the other hand, perhaps it was a bargain.

[flatjack9]

I have a friend who just sold his 35 3 window for $90,000 on Bring a Trailer. Exceptionally well done car with a 221 V-8 with Eddie Meyer heads and a Columbia 2 speed. Quality still brings the money.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by flatjack9

I have a friend who just sold his 35 roadster for $90,000 on Bring a Trailer. Exceptionally well done car with a 221 V-8 with Eddie Meyer heads and a Columbia 2 speed. Quality still brings the money.

Funny, well done older Fords, including A's, seem to be brining very good money on Bring a Trailer.

[rockfla]

Maybe BAT & “some” on Ebay are the opposite end of the spectrum from this car here in that “maybe” the acorn found the “one” blind hog…..or a little more direct and less flattering….”A fool and his money”. $90,000 for a 35 Roadster is pretty nuts……no matter how nice and gussied up…..JMO.

Just like down here, just saw a guy with a 61 Ford two door with a hopped up 390 with 4 spd for sale. $75,000. On the one hand I say this guy is “insane”, THEN Barrett Jackson or “others” step up and prove me wrong…OR at least prove the “acorn found the blind hog theory…..BUT no 61 Ford ever made is worth $75,000….again JMO.

[flatjack9]

BAT is an auction site, so more than one person wanted that car.

[mrtexas]

Originally Posted by flatjack9

I have a friend who just sold his 35 roadster for $90,000 on Bring a Trailer. Exceptionally well done car with a 221 V-8 with Eddie Meyer heads and a Columbia 2 speed. Quality still brings the money.

https://bringatrailer.com/ford/model...6/?q=1935+ford

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by flatjack9

BAT is an auction site, so more than one person wanted that car.

Not being argumentative BUT so is Ebay and I have three different acquaintances that have “shill” accounts, ALSO watching “Chasing Classic Cars” and Bonhams as much as admitted the “same thing” as having “plants” bidding on cars to drive the bid up, BAT is not ammune!!! They “also” have a vested interest in a car like that selling like it did……and maybe it did??? call me a sceptic!!!! JMO.

[flatjack9]

I edited my post. It is a 3 window coupe. My bad.

[flatjack9]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Not being argumentative BUT so is Ebay and I have three different acquaintances that have “shill” accounts, ALSO watching “Chasing Classic Cars” and Bonhams as much as admitted the “same thing” as having “plants” bidding on cars to drive the bid up, BAT is not ammune!!! They “also” have a vested interest in a car like that selling like it did……and maybe it did??? call me a sceptic!!!! JMO.

Sceptic. I know for a fact he sold the car. Money in hand.

[woodburnranch]

Originally Posted by flatjack9

I edited my post. It is a 3 window coupe. My bad.

That is good news, I have one I should sell. Unfortunately, not that nice.

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by flatjack9

Sceptic. I know for a fact he sold the car. Money in hand.

Sceptic - NOT that the car didn’t “sell” for what you say……JUST the amount of legitimate buyers willing to bid a 35 3 window up to $90,000. AGAIN, “for example”, my brother had an item listed on ebay, he did not put a “minimum” bid “hoping” for activity bidding on his sailboard Sail, “hoping” that it would reach, at least $25……I did not, it only garnered a opening bid of $.99. He asked me to bid it up to “see IF” it would make the $25 mark…..I bought the sail…..wink wink!!!! SO again, “maybe” they flushed out the one buyer at $90,000……That’s my point!!!! Happy for him he found someone that willing!!! not a point of calling you a liar.

[JayChicago]

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Mecum had a record setting sale.

Where do all these buyers come from, with huge bank accounts, with more money than brains?!!

[flatford8]

Originally Posted by JayChicago

Mecum had a record setting sale.

Where do all these buyers come from, with huge bank accounts, with more money than brains?!!

It seems like some of the things sell for ridiculous amounts....then there’s the people that have bidding software and can beat you out for $1 on a $200-$300 item, at the last second.....I think there’s too much hidden in the works of a lot of auctions.....Mark

[barnfind]

Mecum is not where u sell an old Ford unless the site is a short driving distance - just my opinion.
Guessing this one was a first day sale of mostly lower priced bidders.

[Jeff/Illinois]

Auctions can be pretty murky waters to wade through.

There are a lot of hokey-pokey things going on behind the scenes. Most notably shill bidders.

Be very very careful....

[mrtexas]

Originally Posted by flatford8

It seems like some of the things sell for ridiculous amounts....then there’s the people that have bidding software and can beat you out for $1 on a $200-$300 item, at the last second.....I think there’s too much hidden in the works of a lot of auctions.....Mark

I've used this for 10 years on ebay, can't recall losing an auction, BTW last 5 seconds. Most people bid on ebay one bid increment above the current bid: https://www.gixen.com/main/index.php

[mrtexas]

Originally Posted by Jeff/Illinois

Auctions can be pretty murky waters to wade through.

There are a lot of hokey-pokey things going on behind the scenes. Most notably shill bidders.

Be very very careful....

Mecum admits as much as they can take ghost bids up to the reserve. So bids may be phony below the reserve. What difference does it make anyway?

[rockfla]

Originally Posted by mrtexas

Mecum admits as much as they can take ghost bids up to the reserve. So bids may be phony below the reserve. What difference does it make anyway?

"IF" its a "no reserve" auction, it could be quite substantial....IF you are the only true bidder on an Item.


The bottom line is stick to what it is worth to you. NO more!!!

[Fordors]

If I place my maximum bid on eBay my bid only shows as the next increment in the bidding progression. If someone bids using that “last second” software and takes the prize one dollar over my set maximum I would not feel bad, my established value for the item was exceeded. Last second bidding does nothing on eBay if you set the maximum you are willing to pay for something.

[Ol' Ron]

I was born at a time that it made it possable for me to have these old cars at a fraction of the cost it take to run a car thru a car wash. Had a 36 convertible that I paid 40 bucks for in the early 50's, everythhhing worked. baught a 36 2dr with 8K miles on it for 100 bucks, had to replace the motor, didn't run thru the war. got one from a junk yard. Many more . The new cars arn't that expensive the money isn't any good. look wha thappened to the nickle candy bar??
Granps

[fordor41]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Maybe BAT & “some” on Ebay are the opposite end of the spectrum from this car here in that “maybe” the acorn found the “one” blind hog…..or a little more direct and less flattering….”A fool and his money”. $90,000 for a 35 Roadster is pretty nuts……no matter how nice and gussied up…..JMO.

Just like down here, just saw a guy with a 61 Ford two door with a hopped up 390 with 4 spd for sale. $75,000. On the one hand I say this guy is “insane”, THEN Barrett Jackson or “others” step up and prove me wrong…OR at least prove the “acorn found the blind hog theory…..BUT no 61 Ford ever made is worth $75,000….again JMO.

Mecum sold a vintage Ferrari for something like $21million over the weekend. Wouldn't dare to drive it. Some of those bidders were crazy! I guess you can tell your buddies you have a $100K car in your garage.

[34pickup]

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

I was born at a time that it made it possable for me to have these old cars at a fraction of the cost it take to run a car thru a car wash. Had a 36 convertible that I paid 40 bucks for in the early 50's, everythhhing worked. baught a 36 2dr with 8K miles on it for 100 bucks, had to replace the motor, didn't run thru the war. got one from a junk yard. Many more . The new cars arn't that expensive the money isn't any good. look wha thappened to the nickle candy bar??
Granps

Spot on. The dollar is worth a fraction of what it was.

[solidaxle]

Originally Posted by Fordors

If I place my maximum bid on eBay my bid only shows as the next increment in the bidding progression. If someone bids using that “last second” software and takes the prize one dollar over my set maximum I would not feel bad, my established value for the item was exceeded. Last second bidding does nothing on eBay if you set the maximum you are willing to pay for something.

That's the way I look at bidding on Ebay. However, I've had some regrets on not bidding high enough. Chalk it up to water under the bridge.