9" rear in a jailbar truck

[GB SISSON]

Proving to be harder to find than I thought. While I have never used facebook for 'socializing' have to say their marketplace is surpassing craigslist in any catergory I go to. But still nothing coming up. Thought I'd call some wrecking yards today, but really I would not be too surprised to find one on the island. It's expensive to get rid of vehicles here when scrap is so low. Pickups have long been a mainstay and older vehicles are still viable for a dd or work truck because of speed or distance. I can put out some feelers here on the island too. Maybe a want ad on FTE site.

[Bored&Stroked]

Originally Posted by GB SISSON

Proving to be harder to find than I thought. While I have never used facebook for 'socializing' have to say their marketplace is surpassing craigslist in any catergory I go to. But still nothing coming up. Thought I'd call some wrecking yards today, but really I would not be too surprised to find one on the island. It's expensive to get rid of vehicles here when scrap is so low. Pickups have long been a mainstay and older vehicles are still viable for a dd or work truck because of speed or distance. I can put out some feelers here on the island too. Maybe a want ad on FTE site.

The important part is to make sure you can pull the pumpkin and inspect the gears and bearings. If you can't do that, you have no idea as to what you're getting into. It is not a hard job . . . just a bit messy! LOL

[slowforty]

IF you get an 8 inch rearend be careful putting it back together. If yopu put the Pig in upside down you will ha 3 speeds in reverse. Dont ask how I know this

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by slowforty

IF you get an 8 inch rearend be careful putting it back together. If yopu put the Pig in upside down you will ha 3 speeds in reverse. Dont ask how I know this

That could come in very handy in a demolition derby!

[Newc]

Swap meet season is here. Found a real old wrecking yard nr Elma , Wa; got my Olds eng there two weeks ago. you want a 1/2ton Ford PU rear diff complete 57 thru 72. Auto adj brakes in the later ones. Thru town on north side, just a fence and all blackberries. Across street is a junkie living with all sorts of wrecks. Pm me for phone to that junkie- he was at Early Bird swap this yr. Newc

[rich b]

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Stay with your '57-'72 F-100 9" plan; it checks all the boxes. Right width, good gear ratio, correct bolt pattern, and decent 11" brakes.

In any case it might be a good idea to update your front brakes if you are still running Lockheed brakes.

[GB SISSON]

Things looking up! Rebuilt and unused 4:11 28 spline 3rd member located and another guy that has a complete rear axle he pulled from a '56 half ton that is definately a 9", He pulled the third member out of it for another project with a 9" rear. The axle is about an hour's drive from the ferry dock on the mainland. I will keep you posted. Both sellers are very knowledgable ford enthusiasts from the old school. Yay! Details to follow.

[GB SISSON]

The guy no longer has the one from the '56 but turns out his son has one at his shop from a '71 F100. He took the pumpkin out and put it in a customer's '67 mustang. He said axles are 28 spline. Son sent me the pics. Gonna try to get down there next week.

[cas3]

Thats a good one, I think they got wider brakes in 67 or so

[GB SISSON]

Originally Posted by cas3

Thats a good one, I think they got wider brakes in 67 or so

The drums look to be wider than my stock setup. I think they might be 11" diameter.

[cas3]

They are 11" x 2", self adjusting, Bendix. My new 61, 11x1 3/4, manual adjusters.

[GB SISSON]

So I scored on this one Skip? Best part is I have met and had detailed phone conversations with two super nice and helpful 79 year old Ford experts. Sure, some of the details have been about our families, hobbies, work, weather, health etc, but it reminds me of the days of collecting early gas engines and parts in the 80s when you'd read an ad in 'Gas Engine Magazine', or car parts in Hemmings, and you'd 'meet' some guy in Nebraska (or 49 other states) that actually had the part or knew how to make one or find one. I'll never forget a call to Oklahoma where the wife answered and said "He's out Chorin' ". I had her repeat it 3 times and finally she yelled... "He's out DOIN' his CHORES, he'll call you when he gets in."

[cas3]

Good humor GB, Hillbilly is one of the more difficult languages to master. I'm sure the old feller had a notion that if he quit chorin to talk about old junk he may get a whoopin.

Next, you will have to "figger" the brakes. That may take some cypherin as you got 3 1/6 lines in the new rear, and...the old single master and 1/4" in the woody? Rich B the brake guru will hopefully come in and sort this all out.

[GB SISSON]

I'm sure I will need plenty of help getting the brakes working correctly and as usual will be looking to those who have been down that ol' road before me for advice. I am trying to train myself to be happy with my three current old trucks instead of every year dragging home another beater to get running and stopping. My new path is to finish the three keepers I now have with good headlights, wipers, heaters etc. Piece by piece I am now doing that with help from lots of you 'Barners, And thanks!

[Bored&Stroked]

I wonder how wide that new housing is? It just looks wide to me . . . but who the heck knows from just a picture. You might have him measure drum face to drum face as well as center of spring pad to center of spring pad.

But, if it needs to be narrowed, that can be done (with the right equipment). The axles can be shortened and resplined as well. The only issue is that "that all takes money"!

[GB SISSON]

All good Dale. Keep in mind the jailbars are 2 1/2" wider than the prewar pickups and like today's pickups haul 4x8 plywood between the wheel wells, so yes it would look wide to most here. Extensive research assures me that any housing from an F100 1957-1972 is a direct bolt in to a '42-'56 1/2 ton. Spring perches as well as housing width, which is 61.25 would be spot on. This housing was not offered up anywhere or listed for sale, but the father of the axle's owner referred me to it. The dad has been a die-hard ford truck collector for many years and from talking to the son, he learned much from dad. Sellers daughter drives a '72 f100. Needed sheet metal. They followed a lead to Prosser Wa on the dry side of the Cascades and bought a comp;ete and rust free parts truck '71. Upon arriving home the truck was parted out. At some point the 3rd member went to that mustang. I checked body styles and '71-72 are same, so I know it isn't from a '73. Guy was super helpful and friendly and said I could have the complete setup seen in the photos for 200 bucks. The completely rebuilt 4:11 pumpkin is coming from a Barner we all know, so I have great confidence in these transactions!

[Bored&Stroked]

Great news . . . I've never built or owned a later truck, so it is good to know that I've finally heard of the a part that actually "bolts in" . . . versus having to cut, splice, cuss, swear and massage it to fit! It will be perfect for your setup and the brakes are easy to work on and will be a great improvement to the old Lockheed stuff. As others noted, you might consider changing the front brakes to a later setup . . . then you'd really have the "Cat's Ass". Keep us posted on your progress!

[GB SISSON]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Dale. I just now read a thread on the Hamb detailing a '57-'72 9" from an f100 under a jailbar 1/2 ton. This afternoon I whipped up a crate made from 1" and 3/4" scrap plywood that fits a 9" third member. It is glued and screwed, will have a screwed down plywood lid, then banded with steel banding. This empty crate will head to Minnesota tomorrow to be returned with the great pumpkin.

[cas3]

Even put handles in the box. You're somthin else GB

[GB SISSON]

That punkin' weighs 63 lbs and I bet the crate is 5 and so I figured it was the least I could do. You know I'm way too cheap to buy handles.