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Old 05-26-2019, 05:40 AM   #1
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I was sitting in a mall parking lot the other day, when a young man about 25 years, old approached and said, "Cool ride". I thanked him, and he then asked jokingly, "Has it got a backup camera?". I said, "It has three.", and pointed to the mirrors. "What about collision avoidance?". I said, "It has two systems.", and pointed to my eyes. He was a bit surprised at my answers, so I went on to tell him the car also had locking steering, push button start and variable speed wipers controlled by the gas pedal. Looking a bit puzzled, he stepped back, took another look at the car, nodded his head and left. About five minutes later, I saw him leaving in a jacked up 4X4 with big tires, loud exhaust and lots of chrome. I'd guess his cool ride was worth about three or four times what my '46 is worth, but I wouldn't trade. I think my ride is a lot cooler!
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Did you mention the AC ?
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Well, that was one option I forgot. After all these years, the cowl scoop still works. Of couse the 4/60 AC always works. Four windows open and 60 MPH.
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Everywhere we take "Annabelle" people stop, look, chat about how cool she is. Folks, even big truckers honk, wave, give a thumbs up. At the stop lights people sometimes just look and smile. And better yet I get to drive this sweet ride.
She ain't loud, she ain't fast, but she sure is pretty. Chap
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At a recent carshow a man and his young son were looking inside my wagon. The young fellow looked at the inside of the roof and exclaimed "Dad, it looks like the inside of a lobster trap" Kids say the darndest things..Bill
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At many car shows I explain what a Flathead is. Usually,there is an overhead valve engine in something parked next to me. They are amazed how simple it is compared to today's rides. They almost all comment on how easy the spark plugs are reached to change them
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At a recent event I was parked next to a car set up for drag racing. Roll cage, big block, parachute, ect.. We found amusement in the fact that my car was also equipped with a big block.. In it`s day.
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We all get a lot of "thumbs up" when we're out an about. Think it's just one more reason to enjoy the ride!!
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What's old is new.
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At a car show last Saturday a fellow commented that he could not believe how thin the heads were on my engine . I explained to him the way the valve system operates.
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Several years ago on a chilly November day one of my twin daughters (Early 30’s at the time) wanted to go for a spin in the newly acquired 1936 Phaeton. So, off we went and pretty soon she says, “Dad it’s cold, can you turn the heater on”? Nope, I said, doesn’t have one. “Can I roll the window up, she asked? Sure I said. “Where is the window handle”, she asked. Doesn’t have any windows, I said. Finally a somewhat exasperated millennial asked, “Can we go home dad”? They don’t make them like they used to. John
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Several years ago on a chilly November day one of my twin daughters (Early 30’s at the time) wanted to go for a spin in the newly acquired 1936 Phaeton. So, off we went and pretty soon she says, “Dad it’s cold, can you turn the heater on”? Nope, I said, doesn’t have one. “Can I roll the window up, she asked? Sure I said. “Where is the window handle”, she asked. Doesn’t have any windows, I said. Finally a somewhat exasperated millennial asked, “Can we go home dad”? They don’t make them like they used to. John
Partly true: Kids are still made the old fashioned way, they just don't turn out like they used to.
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The 6 year old grandson of our good friends was over at our house. He climbed in the back seat of our '39 Deluxe Fordor. Once he discovered the window crank and rolled the window up and down, he proclaimed, "This is the funnest car I've ever been in!!!"...from the mouth of babes!!!
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its they same the world over at times moreso since we drive rh and my 39 is still lh
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My grandson was in my new ride - 32 5 Window - and wanted to know how to roll down the window since he could not find the button. I pointed to the window crank and he pulled it but did not turn it. I told him turn it clockwise to close, counter clockwise to open. He just looked at me for a few seconds and then said “that’s pretty ingenious for something so old...” Oh boy.....
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That 4x4 in the first post wasn't worth more, it just cost more.
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10-4 on the 4x4 !!! I'm blessed, as my 30 year old grandson loves my 52 Vic & wants to learn to drive a 3 on a tree with overdrive the next time he's in town!
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My girlfriend is amazed at how simple these old cars are.Simple but inconvenient and no warning lights. She really likes her fairly new BMW.That is, until the dash lit up with a message that said "Oil level sensor malfunction". No big deal....check the dipstick. Guess what? No dipstick! That's the way it was made. $600 repair bill because the oil had to be changed, sensor had to be replaced and the computer had to be reset. Now THAT'S inconvenient.
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Reading all this has given me more laughs since Abbet& Costollo.
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Everyday [and with my work in the building industry] As humans we think we're getting smarter, but in reality we're just getting dumber! We have so many gadgets and useless extras when it comes to cars alone.. now they can even brake for you and park?? I mean WTF if you cant do this why are you even driving without those skills? The most simplest of skills are being taken away day by day... Aghhh don't get me started !! ........
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To add to Talkwrench. Toyota had issues with accelerator pedals that just "took off" on people. All electronic and computer controlled, nothing mechanical. 99% of the time it works great, maybe better. Probably just the same with mechanical. All vehicles (planes too) are like that now.

It'd be nice to have a vehicle option available for around 6-10gs that was mostly mechanical things. Void of power accessories (backup cams, entertainment, etc). Or all electric... just the price point here in the states isn't there. No backup cams or parallel parking options .


It's cheaper to add gadgets for 10s of dollars to new vehicles, then add 10s of thousands of dollars to the price. Just business.


But transportation is going to be a whole different animal in the future. Less and less of the new gen has any interest in owning a vehicle. If you doubt look at where GM projects and their investing focus is in.

It's a slow transition. There will always be a community of car guys. Always.





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My pet peeve is that a simple mechanical function gets assigned to a module to make it better (?). Then comes a system failure than can cost lives (fact). While a simple system of levers and pivot points, is capable of lasting a lifetime.

As far as the public's reaction on the street, most of it occurs after we have passed and folks are twisting their necks and pointing to the spectacle.
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A bones, I'll give an precise example of your point. I'm a ford guy. But 2016 on Ford truck tailgates only open electric. No mechanical way to open them. They may open great new, but I know of a specific person that has a hard time with this. Certainly it complicates the situation with a cover. What is so bad about a regular mechanic latch? Was it really so bad or inconvenient? Not sure how it improved anything.


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Way too many buttons and gadgets in new vehicles and at some point they will all give some sort of trouble or quit working at the worst possible time. The wife and I have toyed with the idea of buying a new car of some sort as our Jeep doesn't have much room in it for passengers. She wants something that's easy to drive in town and reliable so she can travel to see our kids. I want a 53 Victoria and would compromise and get one with the Ford-o-Matic so it would be easier for her to drive. She said OK but, I know she wouldn't like to drive it anywhere by herself. Guess we're going to do without.
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Yep, that Ford-O-Matic would make texting easier for her.

"I'm blessed, as my 30 year old grandson loves my 52 Vic & wants to learn to drive a 3 on a tree with overdrive the next time he's in town!"

Not do sure how it's going to go with "3 on a tree."
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Nice thing about a '53 for your wife is that they originally had power steering as an option. I have found that women can become proficient with a manual transmission (I firmly believe the "three on the tree" is about the easiest manual transmission to master), but they will never be happy about the effort required to steer these old brutes, especially in close quarters and slow speeds. Now, try to find one.
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https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars...ationFlag=true Here's one in my neck of the woods. Looks good in the pics. No power steering 18K asking in CDN money! Just thought I wood throw that into the mix.. Bill
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Electric steering is very popular, and can be installed in the old cars. A friend has one in a 38PU from a Saturn.
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looking at all the posts on this thread tells me that owning these vehicles is about stewardship and NOT glory. The more good memories we can help create in others, the more enjoyment we will have and more money our vehicles will be worth to the next generations.
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The other morning I was on my way to Home Depot and a club of lowered Honda Civics was pulled over. As I went by I saw one of the license plates. It said, "Vintage Hot Rod". I thought, this is what world of hot rods and antique cars has come to! Then I thought that Honda could have been 30-year's old. The 1980s and 1990s seem to be the new nostalgic era for the millennials?
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According to Merriam-Webster dictionary vintage is a period of or origin or manufacture. So this could be anything. “ I have a vintage lawn mower that I bought last year “

OK, I lied, my lawn mower is 25 years old! Does that make it a classic, or an antique?
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Did you show him how the turn signals work?
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OK, I lied, my lawn mower is 25 years old! Does that make it a classic, or an antique?

Ralph does it run and cut grass? Then it's a classic. Does it sit in a corner of the yard and the wife puts a planter with flowers on it? Then it's an antique. Ya I don't know....
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Still runs and cuts grass! I change the oil every spring, and sharpen the blades. So I guess it’s a classic.
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nomenclature. Both are proper. Classic via webster, "judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind". defined as the best of said vintage. So maybe so, if it's still running.


Vintage defined by the owner of such. Something made 5yrs ago, now could be considered vintage, as things go. I need a few more decades.


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A while back I was at the gas station filling up my 50 Mercury and decided to check the oil. A kid working there looks at the engine with a blank look on his face and asks "how many cylinders is it?"
When I drive my 56 Continental I laugh watching them try to figure out where the gas tank filler cap is located and the look they give when I pull the driver's side taillight straight back and over to the side. They aren't used to "modern" technology I guess.
How many think the radio is not working because you have to wait for the tubes to warm up.
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How many think the radio is not working because you have to wait for the tubes to warm up.
This reminds me of a "mind fart" I had with the radio on my '51. I had it repaired, and got it back, and installed it. After hooking everything up, it just wouldn't work. Oh, it would hum and the tubes would light up, but I couldn't get anything else out of it. After a considerable amount of double checking and
general frustration, I realized that I was inside my shop, which is an all metal building. I took the car outside and the radio worked perfectly,
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Reference all of the new car stuff: To err is human,but to really screw things up requires a computer.
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A bones, I'll give an precise example of your point. I'm a ford guy. But 2016 on Ford truck tailgates only open electric. No mechanical way to open them.

What is so bad about a regular mechanic latch? Was it really so bad or inconvenient? Not sure how it improved anything.

Normal grievousness.
That is a good one. What I sticks in my mind happened perhaps a year back.
( Mind now, thanks to modern medicine some of the drawers of my 'file cabinet' memory are stuck. )

Anyway a person of note, sports personality, gets out of his non Ford, after using the remote gear selector to put it in park. As he walks around the car he is run over. The L tronic module thingy failed, causing his demise.

The best question I've heard though, was from a youngster while watching me add some water to my 'T'. " One question mister, Where do you get a car like that? " I smiled and directed him to ask for a Hemmings Motor News.
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When folks ask me how long I've had my 35 Ford, I like to tell them that I bought it new and I only have one more payment to make.
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My girlfriend is amazed at how simple these old cars are.Simple but inconvenient and no warning lights. She really likes her fairly new BMW.That is, until the dash lit up with a message that said "Oil level sensor malfunction". No big deal....check the dipstick. Guess what? No dipstick! That's the way it was made. $600 repair bill because the oil had to be changed, sensor had to be replaced and the computer had to be reset. Now THAT'S inconvenient.
YEAH... Boy was I mad at Audi when I bought my wife's car a few years ago (gone now, traded for 2018 Charger)... No dipstick.. I said to the Audi dealer repair.. "Yeah there is a dip-stick... Me for buying your piece of crap car!"
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