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Ohc Joe · 11-20-2021, 09:47 AM

Hello just got a 36 sedan and I'm new to the Ford game. I'm looking for information on how to lower the front and rear some without crazy modifications. Thanks for your input.
I tried to post a picture but says not loading maybe to big of a file will keep trying.

Ohc Joe · 11-20-2021, 09:49 AM

Let's see if this works

KiWinUS · 11-20-2021, 09:55 AM

Welcome. Fellow 36 collector here

mfirth · 11-20-2021, 10:03 AM

WWelcome to "The Barn". GR8 folks here & lots of info. Looks like a nice "old Ford". We love pictures.........
mike

deuce lover · 11-20-2021, 10:11 AM

To start off,will you retain the mechanical brakes?

mfirth · 11-20-2021, 10:17 AM

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My friend Bill, who is a Barner, has a 38 with mech brakes that work very good....just saying.

deuce lover · 11-20-2021, 10:35 AM

36 Ford's have brake rods,not cable.

Bursonaw · 11-20-2021, 11:14 AM

Welcome to the forum!

There are several ways to lower your car depending on how much time and effort you want to put in to get the desired look and handling you want. You might do some research on the H.A.M.B forum, there is a lot of good information from those that have lowered there cars.

1. Changing the tires sizes will lower the car without any suspension modifications. Tire size changes are also use with the suspension mods to help give the car a desired stance.

2. The traditional suspension mod method is to install a 4” dropped front axle that will yield about a 2” drop at the bumper. This requires you to remove the front axle and wishbone assembly. You will also need to drop the control arms on your spindles and convert to hydraulic brakes.

3. You could install reverse eye springs. This will give you about a 1” drop. You can use these springs in conjunction with the dropped axle for and additional drop.

4. You can remove some leafs from your springs. Be careful not to remove to many or the wrong leafs as it puts additional strain on the other leafs and can be a saftey issue.

5. You can buy lowering shackles and this will give you about 1 1/2” drop.
Check out
https://carrillocustoms.com/products...ransverse-leaf

6. For the rear axle the easy options are reverse eye springs, lowering shackles and/or lowering blocks.
https://carrillocustoms.com/products...h-lowering-kit

These are just some ideas for you to think about. There are other ways as well, but they are mostly major modifications. Each of these that I mentioned have some challenges in installing but can be done in your shop. I hope this helps you and I’m sure whatever way you go, it’s about what you like best. Have fun with you car!

Just to give you an idea. For my car I used a 4” dropped axle, (Previously converted to hydraulic brakes), used lowering shackles in the rear and used 550x16 front tires, 700x16 rear tires.

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petehoovie · 11-20-2021, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohc Joe

Let's see if this works

Ohc Joe · 11-20-2021, 11:59 AM

Awesome thanks guys the brakes seem to be fine for now . I will look into those leads I'm in so cal and need to check out the Ford shop in San dimas I'm in Chino so not far. I'm thinking that dropped front axle and reverse springs and the rear I'll see what's the best way . Maybe remove springs and those longer brackets .

JayChicago · 11-20-2021, 12:27 PM

Just one man's opinion:
Why do you want to lower this car? With the appearance of the car as it now is, lowered suspension may just look like its riding on old tired springs. Why not just drive it, enjoy it, as it was supposed to be?

Ohc Joe · 11-20-2021, 01:01 PM

Too me it's too high especially out back im thinking drop it and fill those wheelwells with some fat whitewall and keep patina look for now I keep telling my 13 year daughter that's it's going to be her high school ride. I'm sure she's going to want it once I'm done

deuce lover · 11-20-2021, 01:18 PM

Yes talk to Michael at The Ford Store. Dropped axle with mechanical brakes will be a challenge but not with hydraulic brakes. You might want to look into replacing the steering with a '37 - 40.

petehoovie · 11-20-2021, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce lover

Yes talk to Michael at The Ford Store. Dropped axle with mechanical brakes will be a challenge but not with hydraulic brakes. You might want to look into replacing the steering with a '37 - 40.

Brian · 11-20-2021, 02:34 PM

I ran a 4" dropped axle for a number of years in my 35 with mechanical brakes...can easily be done by heating and bending the mounting arm atop the perch bolt to enable the operating cross shaft to bolt up. And need to reshape the anti-rattlers on the radius rods to suit [easy].

tom1948 · 11-20-2021, 02:41 PM

Welcome, why don't you check out Iron Trap Garage on youtube, Matt recently had a tutorial on removing leaves from the front and rear springs to lower a '34 coupe he,s working on. He builds and restores tradional hotrods and also keeps some barn finds as is. He's the guy who used to do demo videos for eastwood co.

Ohc Joe · 11-20-2021, 09:01 PM

Thanks guys I’ll check out the videos and hook up with the guy in San dimas

Terranova · 11-21-2021, 08:17 AM

Welcome. Have a fordor myself. Planning on reversed springs and maybe lose a leaf or two.

Looking forward to see ping what you do and how it turns out.

Terranova

Ohc Joe · 11-21-2021, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terranova

Welcome. Have a fordor myself. Planning on reversed springs and maybe lose a leaf or two.

Looking forward to see ping what you do and how it turns out.

Terranova

Great I’m going to try to do this in rear today I didn’t get a chance yesterday I’ll post pics if I do I may remove some springs

Lawson Cox · 11-21-2021, 11:53 AM

For what it's worth, I like the stance as it is. Mess with one thing and the can of worms is wide open. Just sayin'.

11-20-2021, 09:47 AM	#1
Ohc Joe Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 8	Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Hello just got a 36 sedan and I'm new to the Ford game. I'm looking for information on how to lower the front and rear some without crazy modifications. Thanks for your input. I tried to post a picture but says not loading maybe to big of a file will keep trying.

11-20-2021, 09:55 AM	#3
KiWinUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlotte NC KiWi-L100 available here Posts: 2,960	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Welcome. Fellow 36 collector here

11-20-2021, 10:03 AM	#4
mfirth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ohio Posts: 986	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s WWelcome to "The Barn". GR8 folks here & lots of info. Looks like a nice "old Ford". We love pictures......... mike

11-20-2021, 10:11 AM	#5
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,305	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s To start off,will you retain the mechanical brakes?

11-20-2021, 10:17 AM	#6
mfirth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ohio Posts: 986	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My friend Bill, who is a Barner, has a 38 with mech brakes that work very good....just saying.

11-20-2021, 10:35 AM	#7
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,305	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s 36 Ford's have brake rods,not cable.

11-20-2021, 11:14 AM	#8
Bursonaw Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 345	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Welcome to the forum! There are several ways to lower your car depending on how much time and effort you want to put in to get the desired look and handling you want. You might do some research on the H.A.M.B forum, there is a lot of good information from those that have lowered there cars. 1. Changing the tires sizes will lower the car without any suspension modifications. Tire size changes are also use with the suspension mods to help give the car a desired stance. 2. The traditional suspension mod method is to install a 4” dropped front axle that will yield about a 2” drop at the bumper. This requires you to remove the front axle and wishbone assembly. You will also need to drop the control arms on your spindles and convert to hydraulic brakes. 3. You could install reverse eye springs. This will give you about a 1” drop. You can use these springs in conjunction with the dropped axle for and additional drop. 4. You can remove some leafs from your springs. Be careful not to remove to many or the wrong leafs as it puts additional strain on the other leafs and can be a saftey issue. 5. You can buy lowering shackles and this will give you about 1 1/2” drop. Check out https://carrillocustoms.com/products...ransverse-leaf 6. For the rear axle the easy options are reverse eye springs, lowering shackles and/or lowering blocks. https://carrillocustoms.com/products...h-lowering-kit These are just some ideas for you to think about. There are other ways as well, but they are mostly major modifications. Each of these that I mentioned have some challenges in installing but can be done in your shop. I hope this helps you and I’m sure whatever way you go, it’s about what you like best. Have fun with you car! Just to give you an idea. For my car I used a 4” dropped axle, (Previously converted to hydraulic brakes), used lowering shackles in the rear and used 550x16 front tires, 700x16 rear tires. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

11-20-2021, 11:59 AM	#10
Ohc Joe Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 8	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Awesome thanks guys the brakes seem to be fine for now . I will look into those leads I'm in so cal and need to check out the Ford shop in San dimas I'm in Chino so not far. I'm thinking that dropped front axle and reverse springs and the rear I'll see what's the best way . Maybe remove springs and those longer brackets .

11-20-2021, 12:27 PM	#11
JayChicago Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Chicago Posts: 731	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Just one man's opinion: Why do you want to lower this car? With the appearance of the car as it now is, lowered suspension may just look like its riding on old tired springs. Why not just drive it, enjoy it, as it was supposed to be?

11-20-2021, 01:01 PM	#12
Ohc Joe Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 8	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Too me it's too high especially out back im thinking drop it and fill those wheelwells with some fat whitewall and keep patina look for now I keep telling my 13 year daughter that's it's going to be her high school ride. I'm sure she's going to want it once I'm done

11-20-2021, 02:34 PM	#15
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,832	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s I ran a 4" dropped axle for a number of years in my 35 with mechanical brakes...can easily be done by heating and bending the mounting arm atop the perch bolt to enable the operating cross shaft to bolt up. And need to reshape the anti-rattlers on the radius rods to suit [easy]. __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

11-20-2021, 02:41 PM	#16
tom1948 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: west palm beach florida Posts: 180	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Welcome, why don't you check out Iron Trap Garage on youtube, Matt recently had a tutorial on removing leaves from the front and rear springs to lower a '34 coupe he,s working on. He builds and restores tradional hotrods and also keeps some barn finds as is. He's the guy who used to do demo videos for eastwood co.

11-20-2021, 09:01 PM	#17
Ohc Joe Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 8	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Thanks guys I’ll check out the videos and hook up with the guy in San dimas

11-21-2021, 08:17 AM	#18
Terranova Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Grove City, Oh Posts: 255	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s Welcome. Have a fordor myself. Planning on reversed springs and maybe lose a leaf or two. Looking forward to see ping what you do and how it turns out. Terranova

11-21-2021, 11:53 AM	#20
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Hello new member 1936 sedan with ?s For what it's worth, I like the stance as it is. Mess with one thing and the can of worms is wide open. Just sayin'. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".