The Ford Barn

Lawson Cox · 11-20-2021, 05:25 PM

On the ends of your choke and throttle rods there is a spring loaded whatchamacallit that you slide back in order to attach or detach the throttle/choke rod to the carburetor linkage. What is the correct nomenclature for that piece? Is that piece available by itself. Most are "crimped" on but I have an old rod, maybe off of an 8N as it was painted red eons ago, that little gizmo that screws onto a threaded rod with an added lock nut. Never seen that type before. Anywho, I would like to get a couple of the removable type if they are available. I think they would look better than putting an adjustable sleeve in the middle of the throttle rod. Sort of makes the rod look like a snake that swallowed a rat.

(Why are you so hung up on this little rod, Lawson? I dunno, maybe that's about all I'm capable of doing nowadays, the small stuff, but I gotta do something or I'll go bonkers.)

Thanks for any input guys & Gals.

WABOOM · 11-20-2021, 06:48 PM

Spring and ball detent ?

51 MERC-CT · 11-20-2021, 07:29 PM

Speedway has these ends that you can use to make any length of rod.

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Carb-...-RH,37495.html

Lawson Cox · 11-20-2021, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

Speedway has these ends that you can use to make any length of rod.

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Carb-...-RH,37495.html

Sorta close, but what's with the cotter pin? Strange.

tubman · 11-20-2021, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

Sorta close, but what's with the cotter pin? Strange.

There is a deep slot in the set screw that screws into the end of the main body. Once you get the tension right, you insert the cotter pin to engage that slot to keep the set screw from loosening up. They must figure 1/2 turn adjustment is close enough.

ford38v8 · 11-20-2021, 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

Sorta close, but what's with the cotter pin? Strange.

Lawson, you claim to be a Fordnut and yet you consider cotter pins to be strange? Now THAT is strange.

petehoovie · 11-20-2021, 08:07 PM

WEBER CARBURETOR Adjustable linkage rods- 3 1/4 TO 5 INCH LINKAGE ADJUSTABLE ROD

https://www.amazon.com/CARBURETOR-Ad...456307&sr=8-25

https://www.amazon.com/Release-Autom...456793&sr=8-15

Quick Release Ball End aka Throttle Ball Joint Release

https://www.amazon.com/Allstar-Perfo...456676&sr=8-28

Part # 5600001
Double End Carburetor Linkage, 3 Inches Long, Non-Adjustable

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Doubl...ble,37530.html

47Monarch · 11-20-2021, 08:52 PM

Try joe's antique auto auto in Massachusetts

Lawson Cox · 11-20-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8

Lawson, you claim to be a Fordnut and yet you consider cotter pins to be strange? Now THAT is strange.

Alan, a cotter pin is very familiar to me, it's the location that's weird. LOL

Lawson Cox · 11-20-2021, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petehoovie

WEBER CARBURETOR Adjustable linkage rods- 3 1/4 TO 5 INCH LINKAGE ADJUSTABLE ROD

https://www.amazon.com/CARBURETOR-Ad...456307&sr=8-25

https://www.amazon.com/Release-Autom...456793&sr=8-15

Quick Release Ball End aka Throttle Ball Joint Release

https://www.amazon.com/Allstar-Perfo...456676&sr=8-28

Part # 5600001
Double End Carburetor Linkage, 3 Inches Long, Non-Adjustable

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Doubl...ble,37530.html

The left end on the bottom picture is what I have in mind. I'll check with Joe's in Mass and see what he has. Maybe he even makes them up to to order. Fingers crossed.

Thanks to all for your comments and suggestions. They are greatly appreciated.

fortyonerag · 11-21-2021, 05:39 AM

These ball and socket fittings remind me of L'Hotellier fittings used in aircraft control rods.

corvette8n · 11-21-2021, 07:19 AM

I bought some of those for my Ford 8N, either Dennis Carpenter or www.just8n.com picture is from Carpenters catalog.

51 MERC-CT · 11-21-2021, 07:47 AM

A couple of links that may help---
https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/F...nd_8N9740.html

https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tra...ontrol-rod-end

Lawson Cox · 11-21-2021, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

A couple of links that may help---
https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/F...nd_8N9740.html

https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tra...ontrol-rod-end

Getting mighty close. I believe the rod on the 8N, that these attach to is a little smaller than what is on the Ford vehicles however. I'll probably settle for these unless Joe's Mass has the correct ones. Thanks a heap. 51 MERC-CT

Clem Clement · 11-21-2021, 10:53 AM

Why does the carb on my 40Merc need an anticattle cap on the throttle/carb rods?

Lawson Cox · 11-21-2021, 11:38 AM

I believe they all had what you call the "anti cattle cap" back in the day. It is the multiple carb linkage that uses the weird "side saddle" style ends. LOL

11-20-2021, 05:25 PM	#1
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Whatchamacallit On the ends of your choke and throttle rods there is a spring loaded whatchamacallit that you slide back in order to attach or detach the throttle/choke rod to the carburetor linkage. What is the correct nomenclature for that piece? Is that piece available by itself. Most are "crimped" on but I have an old rod, maybe off of an 8N as it was painted red eons ago, that little gizmo that screws onto a threaded rod with an added lock nut. Never seen that type before. Anywho, I would like to get a couple of the removable type if they are available. I think they would look better than putting an adjustable sleeve in the middle of the throttle rod. Sort of makes the rod look like a snake that swallowed a rat. (Why are you so hung up on this little rod, Lawson? I dunno, maybe that's about all I'm capable of doing nowadays, the small stuff, but I gotta do something or I'll go bonkers.) Thanks for any input guys & Gals. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

11-20-2021, 06:48 PM	#2
WABOOM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Minnesota Posts: 347	Re: Whatchamacallit Spring and ball detent ?

11-20-2021, 07:29 PM	#3
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: Whatchamacallit Speedway has these ends that you can use to make any length of rod. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Carb-...-RH,37495.html __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

11-20-2021, 08:07 PM	#7
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,076	Re: Whatchamacallit WEBER CARBURETOR Adjustable linkage rods- 3 1/4 TO 5 INCH LINKAGE ADJUSTABLE ROD https://www.amazon.com/CARBURETOR-Ad...456307&sr=8-25 https://www.amazon.com/Release-Autom...456793&sr=8-15 Quick Release Ball End aka Throttle Ball Joint Release https://www.amazon.com/Allstar-Perfo...456676&sr=8-28 Part # 5600001 Double End Carburetor Linkage, 3 Inches Long, Non-Adjustable https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Doubl...ble,37530.html __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 11-20-2021 at 08:45 PM.

11-20-2021, 08:52 PM	#8
47Monarch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 126	Re: Whatchamacallit Try joe's antique auto auto in Massachusetts

11-21-2021, 05:39 AM	#11
fortyonerag Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 540	Re: Whatchamacallit These ball and socket fittings remind me of L'Hotellier fittings used in aircraft control rods.

11-21-2021, 07:47 AM	#13
51 MERC-CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Hartford, Ct Posts: 5,898	Re: Whatchamacallit A couple of links that may help--- https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/F...nd_8N9740.html https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tra...ontrol-rod-end __________________ DON'T RECALL DOING SOMETHING FOR MYSELF BASED ON SOMEONE ELSE'S LIKES OR DISLIKES

11-21-2021, 10:53 AM	#15
Clem Clement Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 3,393	Re: Whatchamacallit Why does the carb on my 40Merc need an anticattle cap on the throttle/carb rods?

11-21-2021, 11:38 AM	#16
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Whatchamacallit I believe they all had what you call the "anti cattle cap" back in the day. It is the multiple carb linkage that uses the weird "side saddle" style ends. LOL __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".