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12-07-2018, 01:50 PM | #21 |
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Re: Carburetor Float Valve Seat Wrench
Here are seven different valve types I have removed in last 10 years from cores.
There have been others but they were dirty or damaged. Last edited by Benson; 12-07-2018 at 02:19 PM. |
12-07-2018, 02:42 PM | #22 |
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Re: Carburetor Float Valve Seat Wrench
Benson,
Thanks for the photos. I thought l was missing something and spent much time yesterday researching valves. I probably have 5 styles, but have none of the Modern styles. Attached are photos of some Fuel Valve Assemblies l took yesterday, reducing the size to post here did them no favors. I guess l have not come across any valves so stuck that it broke and created such an involved correction. Darryl in Fairbanks Photos are the two styles I usually come across. I got the envelope with three or four of these types of valves.. Last edited by darrylkmc; 12-07-2018 at 05:42 PM. |
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12-07-2018, 06:15 PM | #23 |
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Re: Carburetor Float Valve Seat Wrench
"Sal, I think this is where you and Vince were struggling with the concept of the pilot. The slot had been broken (stripped) on just the one side, so if the pilot on the tool could have indexed into the center of the seat, that would have given the tool something to pivot on instead of the opposite side of the slot (-which was broken.). Interesting about Zenith moving to Abingdon as my shop is about 30 minutes away from there and I never knew they had relocated to there."
Brent, I understand now. The tool needs to have a pilot to go into the ID of the seat. Zenith is still in business in Abingdon, but struggled since they left Detroit. They left to avoid paying union wages and the high heating/maintenance costs in Detroit. Sal |
12-10-2018, 09:54 AM | #24 |
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Re: Carburetor Float Valve Seat Wrench
This is where I'm still confused. See all those pictures Benson and Daryl posted? They all show valve variations that are an assembly- the needle is captured in the seat and the whole assembly is removed by that hex head that is above the surface of the upper body casting. There's no groove or screwdriver or special tool needed to extract the seat- unless maybe the hex part of the assembly broke off, leaving the seat behind embedded deep in the upper body casting?
The model T carbs had a separate seat and needle (pic attached), and the seat had slots that required a special tool to remove. This sounds to me what Brent is describing, but I've never seen a Zenith Model A carb with a float valve like this. |
12-10-2018, 11:43 AM | #25 | ||
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Will, with all due respect, I am pretty sure this was explained fully above (-and high-lighted in RED below) but I will state it again for all of those that are still confused. One part of our business as a Model-A mechanics is repairing what previous Model-A mechanics before us "fixed". Maybe this is why I am a strong proponent of doing the job correctly as I see the unnecessary amount of frustration and amount of monies that are spent by the owner correcting it. In retrospect, years ago I should have started a Wall of Shame showing some of what we encounter and allow others to post similar stupidity they have encountered. In this particular case, the carburetor we needed to repair came off of a fairly new Model-A owner's car that had a similar seat as you pictured. Very likely it was pirated from some different type carburetor and made to work on this carburetor ...and we just needed to get it out to install a correct one. I thought I was pretty clear in that I only wanted to know if someone knew of a commercially manufactured tool with the pilot made into the tip, and really had no intent to discuss the incorrect seat. Hopefully this makes sense now and I apologize for confusing you. Quote:
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12-10-2018, 03:45 PM | #26 |
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12-10-2018, 04:46 PM | #27 |
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Carburetor Float Valve Seat Wrench
Many of us are trying to restore.
A picture is worth a Thousand words. Darryl in Fairbanks |
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