Cragar/Winfield Intake

[Tim]

I picked up a neat old intake this weekend for a Banger. I thought I could use it and was stoked on it. But I have another one and this one has giant ports on it. So I wanted to ask if anybody knew exactly what it might have been for. I have a hunch but you know where that leads. So Banger experts what is this?

[Flathead]

Ohv ??

[Fordors]

I would expect that the one with the smaller ports will fit on a stock Model A, while the one with larger ports was cast for a Cragar (Miller/ Schofield) head. The carb flange is for a Winfield and the manifolds are intended to be used in a downdraft application.

[Jim Brierley]

Fordor is right but it can be used for either up or down-draft. The one pictured has been used as updraft, as evidenced by corrosion on the front, from a leaky water pump. There may be a small letter-stamp opposite the carb flange indicating size of Winfield carb it is made for.

[hardtimes]

Hey Tim,
Great information from what can be seen !
Can you measure and give center to center of mounting holes , as this will indicate which Winfield size carb that this single 'rams horn' intake was intended for ? That measurement may also confirm why huge intake ports.

I also have a question of you concerning the condition of this intake. Can that type of metal damage be repaired back to as made ?
I ask, as I know nothing of metal work, but have an original Schofield side plate (valve chamber) cover. It has a corner knocked of (clean break) and since it is original/rare..hesitate to scrape it ?

[Tom Wesenberg]

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Originally Posted by hardtimes

Hey Tim,
Great information from what can be seen !
Can you measure and give center to center of mounting holes , as this will indicate which Winfield size carb that this single 'rams horn' intake was intended for ? That measurement may also confirm why huge intake ports.

I also have a question of you concerning the condition of this intake. Can that type of metal damage be repaired back to as made ?
I ask, as I know nothing of metal work, but have an original Schofield side plate (valve chamber) cover. It has a corner knocked of (clean break) and since it is original/rare..hesitate to scrape it ?

Yes, take it to a swap meet where they are demonstrating those wonder sticks of aluminum that solder holes in pop cans so well.

A good welder can fill in the pits and you can file and sand it back smooth. If you have a Vo-Tech school near by, they might even do it for the cost of materials.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Yes, take it to a swap meet where they are demonstrating those wonder sticks of aluminum that solder holes in pop cans so well.

A good welder can fill in the pits and you can file and sand it back smooth. If you have a Vo-Tech school near by, they might even do it for the cost of materials.

Hey Tom,
Some good information !
I do have such a Vo-Tech school nearby . Just might look into that , thanks .

Relative to your wonder stick comment, that reminds me of the current TV ad. It shows someone putting clear liquid onto anything/everything. A special light (ultra-violate ?) is then focused on the liquid between the parts. Voila, fixed in 3 seconds... You seen that yet ? Seems too good to be true

[Tom Wesenberg]

Yes, I've seen that and wondered about it, and just last night my neighbor asked me about it.

Too good to be true usually is.

[Sparky]

It's an epoxy that is cured instantly when exposed to strong ultraviolet light. I can't say how good the stuff on tv would be, but we use the industrial version at my workplace and it works very well.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

In the past, it was "tough", without modern SEALANTS, ADHESIVES, & THREAD LOCKERS! First heard of Loctite when I was working on Jaguars. We mis-read the label & called it, LOKITE. (dum-dee-dum-dum)---We used it to stop the clicking, where the rear axle fits into the wheel hub. POP-RIVETS appeared about the same time, along with Silicone Rubber. YES, I'm OLD AS DIRT! (80)
Old Bill Dad

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Sparky

It's an epoxy that is cured instantly when exposed to strong ultraviolet light. I can't say how good the stuff on tv would be, but we use the industrial version at my workplace and it works very well.

Hey Sparky,
Interesting ! Always looking for GOOD stuff for emer repairs on Model A ! Does your industrial version make strong repairs (temporary ?) in stressed parts usage ? Is your industrial version, available for hobbyist/public use? And, can it be undone once applied ?

[Sparky]

Originally Posted by hardtimes

Hey Sparky,
Interesting ! Always looking for GOOD stuff for emer repairs on Model A ! Does your industrial version make strong repairs (temporary ?) in stressed parts usage ? Is your industrial version, available for hobbyist/public use? And, can it be undone once applied ?

Probably not, the light source is heavy, non-portable and expensive (and dangerous!)

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Sparky

Probably not, the light source is heavy, non-portable and expensive (and dangerous!)

Hey Sparky,
Thanks much for your informative reply/info !