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03-22-2020, 02:39 PM | #1 |
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What happens in a transmission rebuild - Part 1
With everyone forced to stay close to home (or the TV, the computer, or perhaps your shop) we decided to give you guys and gals a little peak into the secret happenings in our transmission rebuilding shop. This will be mainly a picture thread with my own comments, and perhaps a few replies to your comments and questions. The patient in this thread is a 1949 Mercury overdrive 3 speed transmission. This unit came out of a customer's 1949-50 F1 pickup truck. The early Merc overdrive is a common transplant into the F1 trucks.
The transmission is shown pretty much totally disassembled and laid out on the floor of the shop. Some of the misc bolts and such are missing from the picture but you get the point. This is how most of the jobs arrive in our shop....a blend of grease, gear oil, rust, and dirt. You can see that the years of use have darkened the oil on the internal parts. As we move through the job we will take photos of the parts as they move through the cleaning process. So this is it for today. Stayed tuned for progress on the transmission! Here are links to PART 2: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278395 PART 3: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278551 PART 4: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...95#post1867195 PART 5: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278760 PART 6: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278891 PART 7: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...70#post1872470 PART 8: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...60#post1873060 PART 9: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279621 PART 10: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279746 PART 11: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...72#post1885172
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03-22-2020, 03:10 PM | #2 |
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
Thank you . I'll be watching
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03-22-2020, 03:23 PM | #3 |
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
Thanks Mac, for sharing. I'll be watching too.
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03-22-2020, 04:07 PM | #4 |
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This is one of the few times I wish we had a Thumbs Up or Like here on the 'Barn.
Mac is an amazing old-Ford guy (Edit: part of an amazing team...), and I'd pay money to just stand around in a corner of his shop. His presentation in Dearborn in '18 was PhD grade educational material. The company website is a 12 on a scale of 1 to 10! Props to their webmaster.
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
Speaking of.... I haven't heard a word about the 'Model A Lady' in a long time. I hope all is going well. We haven't forgotten you........
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The switched a gear line was pretty good, but talking about a person's spouse was over the line so I self edited. I really hope I didn't torpedo this before it's out of the harbor.
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Although she prefers to stay in the background, the former Model A Lady is doing fine, and appreciated your asking. So, back to our regularly scheduled program.
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
I will be watching. Thanks for taking the time. I for one, really appreciate it.
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
Mac thanks for doing this. In a time where nothing but bad news is spreading it’s refreshing to see a guy like you give us something to see and escape our minds from the world for a bit.
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03-22-2020, 07:07 PM | #10 |
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
Thanks Mac for sharing your knowledge!
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03-22-2020, 07:23 PM | #11 |
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
I wish Mac would make a video of the complete reassembly process for this transmission. I am sure there would be a market for it. I for one would buy one, and help me refresh my memory, as I have 2 of these transmissions that need gone through. The overdrive section is what I am not that familiar with, haven't built one since 1970. the regular 3 speed part is not a problem
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03-22-2020, 07:58 PM | #12 |
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Man, except for NO beer and NO 'dome dogs, this'll almost be a perfect replacement for the now-defunct baseball season. DD
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
Will be watching! Thanks.
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I have a '51 OD transmission mounted on a special fixture on an engine stand just waiting for this. It's even all cleaned up!
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Great thread. Thank you!
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Fantastic that you mention baseball, because of your location ID.
Still glowing in the DC 'burbs. February is usually the worst for baseball fans who glare out sad grey windows... But now? Glad to see the NASCAR dudes tear up some virtual junk today! I really rooted for the 8 car and got out of my chair like I missed for about the last twenty year! Who Hoo!
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
Thanks for sharing this information Mac. Because of my remote location I have to "do it yourself" so any and all information is devoured hungrily.
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03-23-2020, 05:07 PM | #18 |
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
I am introducing each new segment as a fresh thread. Look for the same title under Part 2 (and followed by Parts 3,4 etc as they become available).
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Thanks Mac!
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I have a ‘’49 or 50 Mercury transmission with overdrive.
I also have nice F1 with a rebuilt engine and broken transmission. I ve been told by several people that putting an overdrive tranny in an F1 requires too much frame cutting to be worth the effort.they say too many F1 pickups ended up in the junk because somebody tried to install an overdrive tranny. |
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Thanks for bringing this series to the barn, looking forward to the installments.
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03-25-2020, 10:14 AM | #23 |
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Great stuff
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03-25-2020, 06:18 PM | #24 |
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We were talking at the shop today and the choice of transmission candidates for this thread came up. I will explain that I chose this particular type for several reasons. Mainly, it’s the one transmission that shares the most common characteristics of the various early Ford transmissions that we rebuild. Its 3 speed gearset is virtually the same as most 1940-48 passenger car trannies......it has the large round bell and clutch shaft shared by the typical 1932-48 Ford three speed units of this era.....and the side cover and shifter forks are nearly the same as the 1940-48 side loaders. Then, we have the added benefit of the Borg Warner overdrive section to provide some benefit for the overdrive guys’ interest. So, this single model touches all the bases for this project.
I really don’t plan to spend any time on how you can modify this trans, or how it could be fitted to other vehicles beyond the 1949-50 Mercury cars. We’ll stay focused on the transmission itself and the rebuild techniques we use.
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Excellent choice for the reasons stated. I particularly like the O/D part.
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Re: What happens to a transmission in for a rebuild
I took many pics at the shop yesterday. The next segment should be posted by Friday. Stay tuned......
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Part 4 is now up and ready to view.....Enjoy!
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03-31-2020, 06:53 PM | #29 |
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Part 5 is up and read to view!
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Part 5 was expanded and I just posted Part 6.
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"Parts Is Parts"
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I just posted Part 7 of this project. Also, please note that I have added a couple pics to some of the previous Parts, so you can re-read those to see anything fresh.
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And now Part 8 is posted...….
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Part 9 done and Part 10 coming later today....
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Part 10 is there now. Still more to come of course.
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I just added the rest of the pics for PART 10 for those who are following this thread. I will try to put PART 11 up this weekend.
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I’ve had some requests recently from people interested in this rebuild process, and my old thread is a bit difficult to find in the search tool. So, I am popping it back up once more for those folks. Don’t forget that this project was covered in 10+ separate threads so you have to jump to Page 2 then Page 3 and so on.
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THANK YOU so much for posting all this info.
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Hey Mac....I'm kind'a dense at times, and right NOW is one of them. Can you PLEASE point me to the link for these 10 threads? Thanks a million! Coop . |
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Coops (and all) just revisit post #1 on this very thread.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278347 Mart. |
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Duh..... I'm an idiot! Thank you, Mart!! Coop . |
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